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Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by tracker1 »

aceperry wrote: post #137

This is definitely a big and newsworthy announcement from MS Build. And one of the few times that linux was given any respect as a platform. I think it still remains to be seen as to how serious MS is about real cross-platform products and work, but it's a great step. If they make their cross platform products roughly equal, not like that mono crap, then I would consider that to be a real effort by MS.

In this case, I think they are re-using Electron as a wrapper for their editor combined with some of their existing efforts for a web based VS editor. In this case, I'd suspect they'll flush this out to be much closer to what VS offers as cross platform. I see a LOT of developers using macbooks, and fewer booting up windows to edit VS projects anymore.

This is to stay relevant and that effort won't change... of course they are a company and may not offer a lot of energy if there isn't uptake. My limited use of the new editor is actually a pretty positive so far. I'm going to give it a try for a week, already I like the UX more than sublimetext.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by _1 »

strictnein wrote: post #86
alfredxing wrote: post #40

Seems like it has lots of potential. The product/download site should be at http://code.visualstudio.com when it goes live later today (it's currently showing a login page).

Download works from here.

Works for me too .. but there's no top-level directory in the .zip file, make an empty directory before unzipping!

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by josteink »

bandrami wrote: post #117

Great. I'm a confirmed UNIX geek and I'll be the first to say MS has always excelled at developer tools, and I'd be happy to be able to use them on Linux. (BSD is probably a pipe dream, but this is a decent start.)

Coreclr has a FreeBSD ci-build, so I'm not sure we should write it off yet ;)

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by [deleted] »

jordz wrote: post #109
sqeaky wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I must agree with even though I don't want to. Microsoft seems to legitimately changing its behavior. Personally, I still want more. An open source editor would have been nice. Many good text editors are open source Vim, Emacs, Atom, Notepad++ entering this area with less community seems like an unneeded difficulty.

This editor is built on Atom.

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Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by M8 »

jordz wrote: post #109
sqeaky wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I must agree with even though I don't want to. Microsoft seems to legitimately changing its behavior. Personally, I still want more. An open source editor would have been nice. Many good text editors are open source Vim, Emacs, Atom, Notepad++ entering this area with less community seems like an unneeded difficulty.

This editor is built on Atom.

So it's crappy HTML and JS underneath? I was hoping for cross-platform WPF :(.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by tracker1 »

alfredxing wrote: post #70
daigoba66 wrote: post #33

I'm curious about how the editor itself was built. Is it itself written with cross-platform .NET? And if so, what UI library? Edit: Got my answer. Electron and TypeScript: https://twitter.com/shanselman/status/593454574297427968

It'll be interesting to see what the performance is like, since this has been a recurring problem with web-tech based applications (especially editors like Atom and Brackets).

Actually seems to work better than Atom or Brackets so far... I found both to be intolerable pretty quickly... this, I'll be continuing with for a couple days, I like the UI better than sublimetext so far.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by RCampbell »

EnderMB wrote: post #72
nothrabannosir wrote: post #56

Wow. I seriously don't know what to think anymore. What is their end game? Which platform are they hoping to become / remain dominant in? Don't get me wrong---I'm as happy as the next guy about this. VS is the only tolerable language-dedicated IDE, if they take 25% of their VS engineering mantra to this it will be better than almost anything else. But where does it end? I am clearly so not in touch with my inner mba.…

This is touched upon a bit in this episode of .NET Rocks. http://dotnetrocks.com/default.aspx?showNum=1131 What I took from it is that Microsoft used to make all their money from Windows and Office, but now the company is looking to transition towards being a service company rather than a product company. As a service-oriented company, restricting developers towards a single platform doesn't really help them, so ulti…

Hey, glad you're listening to the show!

I think it's apparent that Microsoft has admitted the reality that the operating system just doesn't matter any more - and you're not going to make money there.

So it's all about services, and Azure is one of the sources of those services.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by steego »

guelo wrote: post #170

"Visual Studio Code" is deceptive marketing. It has nothing to do with Visual Studio. It's just another Javascript text editor built on top of Webkit.

You're missing the point. It is in many ways better than Visual Studio because it's lightweight editor with a lot of the good stuff like a debugger, intellisense, refactoring, code navigation, etc.

This caters to people who want good cross-platform tools without all of the Visual Studio bloat.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by frik »

aceperry wrote: post #143
WDCDev wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The push to open source started under Ballmer and has been gaining momentum the past few years. You saw some of the very early open source work debut when Scott Guthrie open sourced ASP.NET MVC 2 in 2010. He (Guthrie) blogged a few times about evangelizing open source in Microsoft, and given today's news, he gained quite a bit of traction over the years. It also helped that ASP.NET MVC is a pretty sold web framework…

Funny thing is most MS devs seem to think that asp.net is on its way out.

ASP.NET MVC, ASP.NET Web API and ASP.NET Web Pages will merge into a unified "ASP.NET vNext". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASP.NET

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by tinza123 »

guelo wrote: post #170

"Visual Studio Code" is deceptive marketing. It has nothing to do with Visual Studio. It's just another Javascript text editor built on top of Webkit.

How is it "deceptive" exactly? It uses the same language service (roslyn and typescript etc.) with Visual Studio; it has VS signature features like "peek", "find references" etc. Maybe the debugger is not powerful enough now, but it is just a preview version anyways.
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