Apple Watch – What can you do with it? • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple Watch – What can you do with it?

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Post by BinaryIdiot » Wed, Apr 29, 2015, 2:18 AM UTC

notatoad wrote: post #107

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #82

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You cut off the rest of my sentence to say what the rest of my sentence said. Well except I missed android wear having native apps. But I still think my point is valid; you're still limited without the phone just a little less so and some apps, like running apps, really need the GPS on the phone to function well on Android Wear anyway.

You're also missing that Android Wear gained wifi support in the last update - without the phone, you just have to connect to a wifi network (not the same network as the phone necessarily) and you have full functionality again.

I didn't bother mentioning things where there was parity :)

Re: Apple Watch – What can you do with it?

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Post by BinaryIdiot » Wed, Apr 29, 2015, 3:13 AM UTC

s73v3r wrote: post #110

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This is a pretty important summarization of Apple's biggest issues in my opinion (even if you were a little too strong with the word 'failed'). - Ads are intrusive. No one likes ads and they don't pay very well anyway (Google for instance has had their ad money per ad go down year over year). I feel like their days may be numbered. - Paid apps don't give a user a chance to try an application and if the price is too h…

"Personally I like the option of being able to try an application and if I like it pay for it outright. No ads or in app purchases or subscriptions." This goes directly against your criticism of IAP, though. The trial is usually implemented by having a "lite" version downloaded, with an IAP to unlock the real version.

> This goes directly against your criticism of IAP, though. The trial is usually implemented by having a "lite" version downloaded, with an IAP to unlock the real version.

Fair; I don't think I articulated that well enough. My distinction between the two was a trial would allow me to test the app before paying one fee for unlocking everything whereas I always see IAP are being multiple items I have to pay for. Though that isn't a huge distinction and I don't think it's ultimate the best solution anyway.

Re: Apple Watch – What can you do with it?

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Post by sanoli » Wed, Apr 29, 2015, 3:09 PM UTC

eric_h wrote: post #106

sanoli wrote: post #98

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How many watches don't work on people with tattoos on their wrists?

How many optical pulse oximeters don't work on people with tattoos on their wrists. The watch works fine.

thats dishonest/apple fanboyism. The watch doesnt work as advertised.

Edit: on people with dark tattoos.

Re: Apple Watch – What can you do with it?

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Post by wpietri » Wed, Apr 29, 2015, 3:35 PM UTC

josefresco wrote: post #71

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It could be a gold mine for advertisers , whose job is mostly to manipulate people into buying particular things. For watch owners, though, it's being mined. My concern is only modestly with privacy; it's more about intimacy. Defending against manipulation requires a bit of space, a bit of distance from the manipulator. There is zero chance I would let ads on my watch, a surface I paid a fair bit of money for because…

I work for small business owners, to say their "advertising" is primarily to "manipulate people into buying particular things" would be a very skewed characterization. Characterizations like that show a bias, and while they may "feel right" when talking about large brands, when you realize your local market, or restaurant wants to "advertise" or promote a special - suddenly advertising doesn't seem all that evil.

And tell me again the point of promoting a special? It's to manipulate people into becoming regular customers of restaurant A over restaurant B. Even the notion of specials has mainly become a promotional device; the tail of advertising has now wags the dog of cooking.

I like small business owners. And I get the necessity of advertising in today's markets. It's an arms race; if your competitors advertise, you generally have to do so as well. People being people, I'm also provisionally ok with some modest level of manipulation. But let's be real: advertising is mostly calculated manipulation of other people for your own profit.

Re: Apple Watch – What can you do with it?

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel » Wed, Apr 29, 2015, 5:50 PM UTC

macavity23 wrote: post #105

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #38

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Why? Apple's never done that before.

Except with the iPhone, which couldn't run native apps when it was launched.

Yes, but weren't iPhone OS updates free? At least, I think only iPod touch owners were charged.