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Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by aceperry »

krylon wrote: post #92

Ever since Nadella took over at Microsoft, such news items are becoming more and more frequent. Ten years ago, my first reaction at such a headline would have been to check my calendar if it's April 1st. Microsoft has come a long way from the company that everybody loved to hate. IMHO, they still have a long way ahead of them, but it's nice to see they seem to be serious about it. With Ballmer at the helm, I had the…

I fully agree with you there.

"Microsoft has come a long way from the company that everybody loved to hate"

Although, during the last few years, MS seemed to be the company that everyone ignored. But there is still a lot of built up animus against MS, due to their past business practices.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by ash_gti »

rhodysurf wrote: post #64
aikah wrote: post #47

Is it webtech based(built with html/css/js) or hardtech based(C++,QT whatever...) since they are talking about Monaco,it looks webtech based. nice.

Since its webtech it will interesting to see the speed vs atom and sublime

Its based on Electron (see https://github.com/atom/electron) so... its almost like a re-skinned Atom editor at the moment.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by aceperry »

WDCDev wrote: post #127
krylon wrote: post #92

Ever since Nadella took over at Microsoft, such news items are becoming more and more frequent. Ten years ago, my first reaction at such a headline would have been to check my calendar if it's April 1st. Microsoft has come a long way from the company that everybody loved to hate. IMHO, they still have a long way ahead of them, but it's nice to see they seem to be serious about it. With Ballmer at the helm, I had the…

The push to open source started under Ballmer and has been gaining momentum the past few years. You saw some of the very early open source work debut when Scott Guthrie open sourced ASP.NET MVC 2 in 2010. He (Guthrie) blogged a few times about evangelizing open source in Microsoft, and given today's news, he gained quite a bit of traction over the years. It also helped that ASP.NET MVC is a pretty sold web framework…

Funny thing is most MS devs seem to think that asp.net is on its way out.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by sirseal »

krylon wrote: post #92

Ever since Nadella took over at Microsoft, such news items are becoming more and more frequent. Ten years ago, my first reaction at such a headline would have been to check my calendar if it's April 1st. Microsoft has come a long way from the company that everybody loved to hate. IMHO, they still have a long way ahead of them, but it's nice to see they seem to be serious about it. With Ballmer at the helm, I had the…

Definitely. It's because, fundamentally, Ballmer was not a technology person. He simply didn't get it.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by reitanqild »

myth_buster wrote: post #103
MoOmer wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Simply the same as usual: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguis...

I seriously can't get too excited about MSFT technologies because - they have an history of discarding products on a whim, - playing the strategic game and stifling smaller competitors, - having a new CEO doesn't mean it's a new company. The people are still there, there are still fragmentation and silos, and the attitude.

Keep in mind that this time they are not just giving away stuff "free as in beer" they are also giving it away not under AGPL, not under GPL, not under LGPL but under a MIT License which is one of the most permissive licenses out there.

Contrast this to Oracle/Java. Or about any other huge corporation.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by dsg42 »

fragmede wrote: post #131
nothrabannosir wrote: post #56

Wow. I seriously don't know what to think anymore. What is their end game? Which platform are they hoping to become / remain dominant in? Don't get me wrong---I'm as happy as the next guy about this. VS is the only tolerable language-dedicated IDE, if they take 25% of their VS engineering mantra to this it will be better than almost anything else. But where does it end? I am clearly so not in touch with my inner mba.…

Windows is becoming irrelevant, Microsoft Office is being supplanted by Google Docs being both free and 'good enough', and worst of all, Microsoft completely missed the boat on mobile. The Microsoft of old would have died out eventually. What we are seeing is not something you see often - a behemoth of a company doing a 'pivot'. What would you do remain relevant in the face of the majority of the internet services no…

You're completely lost in your Silicon Valley mindset. Most of the western world still shows up to work and uses Office on Windows. Even in tech, I've seen non-technical workers request PC's just so they can use "real" Office. Office for Mac doesn't cut it. And while it might be good enough for you, it's not for many people who rely on Word, Office, and PowerPoint for work. Oh, and Google Docs is hardly free in the office.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by criswell »

alfredxing wrote: post #114

Downloaded & running on OS X. Super impressed with its performance: it opens up & scrolls smoothly through a ~40M text file just fine. Memory usage is quite high though, but that's expected with an Electron-based app.

The only thing I haven't liked so far is the "Go To File..." search isn't fuzzy. Other than that my very brief usage has been pretty good.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by wlesieutre »

natem345 wrote: post #96
wlesieutre wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Azure users and native app developers on the Windows Store. With the free W10 upgrades for 7/8 users and a 30% cut of Windows Store sales, they stand to make some money. But they have to get developers back on their side first, otherwise the store stays dominated by garbage.

But aren't Store apps essentially built on the Win32 API? I remember an article basically saying '.NET didn't win' for that development. I could be recalling wrong, and I'm sure there are wrappers and such, but still...

The current crop of store apps are in a more limited API. But as of today, MS is also going to be selling traditional Win32 apps shipped in a sandbox that allows for clean install/uninstall. Demo showed Photoshop Elements.

They're also supporting Objective-C now, with VS slupring up Xcode projects. Did not expect that one.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by bpicolo »

With a brief attempt, it's surely not ready to replace sublime for me. No package support, doesn't even come close to replacing fuzzy file matching (and the current file opening doesn't work over osx fuse). Not to say I don't welcome the attempt to replace Sublime, it just can't compete yet.

It does appear to load large code bases a lot snappier than Atom, and at least they got panel resizing working unlike Atom (which is still a hilarious thing not to have in Atom).

Edit: Atom seems to actually support dragging to resize panels in a recent update. Late coming but definitely welcome.

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