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Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Ever since Nadella took over at Microsoft, such news items are becoming more and more frequent. Ten years ago, my first reaction at such a headline would have been to check my calendar if it's April 1st.

Microsoft has come a long way from the company that everybody loved to hate. IMHO, they still have a long way ahead of them, but it's nice to see they seem to be serious about it.

With Ballmer at the helm, I had the impression he didn't really know how to handle the rise of mobile devices and cloud services. Nadella seems determined to really change Microsoft from the old Windows-and-Office monopoly to something new.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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post #47

Is it webtech based(built with html/css/js) or hardtech based(C++,QT whatever...) since they are talking about Monaco,it looks webtech based. nice.

Curious, if they just launched cross platform .net core, why didn't they just .net? Why typescript?

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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post #82

Wow. I seriously don't know what to think anymore. What is their end game? Which platform are they hoping to become / remain dominant in? Don't get me wrong---I'm as happy as the next guy about this. VS is the only tolerable language-dedicated IDE, if they take 25% of their VS engineering mantra to this it will be better than almost anything else. But where does it end? I am clearly so not in touch with my inner mba.…

Simply the same as usual: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguis...

This is what worries me. What if we all start using these tools and then new management comes in (or if it was the plan all along) and poisons the well.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

#95

Wow. I seriously don't know what to think anymore. What is their end game? Which platform are they hoping to become / remain dominant in? Don't get me wrong---I'm as happy as the next guy about this. VS is the only tolerable language-dedicated IDE, if they take 25% of their VS engineering mantra to this it will be better than almost anything else. But where does it end? I am clearly so not in touch with my inner mba.…

Interestingly, owning the market in developer tools and programming languages is how Microsoft got their start in the 70s/very early 80s. Not only is this strategy a reasonable one (at least to my uneducated outside opinion), it's starting to look exactly like the one they had before MS-DOS (and that eventually worked out OK for them, though it is still much less certain that Azure or something like it can play the role of DOS in this story).

Whatever it is, I'm not sure I've actually been excited about what Microsoft is doing since Windows 2000, and that's starting to change.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My hypothesis is that winning over developers to use their platform will eventually result in more Azure users. I get the feeling Azure will be their one of their next cash cows, and this is one of the steps in enabling that.

Azure users and native app developers on the Windows Store. With the free W10 upgrades for 7/8 users and a 30% cut of Windows Store sales, they stand to make some money. But they have to get developers back on their side first, otherwise the store stays dominated by garbage.

But aren't Store apps essentially built on the Win32 API? I remember an article basically saying '.NET didn't win' for that development. I could be recalling wrong, and I'm sure there are wrappers and such, but still...

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

#97

Wow. I seriously don't know what to think anymore. What is their end game? Which platform are they hoping to become / remain dominant in? Don't get me wrong---I'm as happy as the next guy about this. VS is the only tolerable language-dedicated IDE, if they take 25% of their VS engineering mantra to this it will be better than almost anything else. But where does it end? I am clearly so not in touch with my inner mba.…

Yeah the real test will be, is this thing supported 5 years from now? There's a nice history of projects like Silverlight that get a lot of buzz and love early on but languish and are killed a few years later when management and priorities change.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

#98
A quick look at the docs and it doesn't yet support extensibility/plugins, though they say in the FAQ that they are working out a plan for that. Right now there is an external task runner that exposes the file name of the current buffer and some other data.

I look forward to seeing what they do on the plugin front. And hopefully they will be able to upstream performance changes to Electron and Atom and hopefully more.

Competition in the editor + dev tools space is always good.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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post #16

A real question, not for flaming but just for understand: is free as in beer or in freedom? I mean, is it also open-source?

Visual Studio Code is already built on top of a number of open source projects we've created or are contributing to, including the Roslyn compiler and language tools, OmniSharp, Typescript, and GitHub Electron. We are still in an early stage and we're evolving our architecture - and we'll look at what we open source, and how we do it, as part of that.
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