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Baltimore Residents Begin Clearing Debris After Night of Riots

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Re: Baltimore Residents Begin Clearing Debris After Night of Riots

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Another great opportunity for effective protest lost.

People have been protesting peacefully in Baltimore all last week with 0 answers from the police or elected officials. No media was talking about it, there was no Freddie Gray thread on hackernews, but now the whole world is talking about it.

Hm except for HN, which has 3 comments about Valve's decision to change their mod rates, for every one about Baltimore.

Re: Baltimore Residents Begin Clearing Debris After Night of Riots

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My wife and I live in Baltimore, in Mt. Vernon. We were having dinner the other night in Bolton Hill (a quiet residential area), and four guys ran by the restaurant and tried to throw a chair through the window (chairs turned out to be heavier than they thought). People vandalized the Rite-Aid a few blocks from our apartment, and set fire to a building we could see out our window. Being from Bangladesh I'm not worrie…

Why do many countries with cold climate didn't have these issues while many countries with hot climate tend to do?

Why do countries which didn't have unsafe streets now do after immigration?

Re: Baltimore Residents Begin Clearing Debris After Night of Riots

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Justified burning down a brand new senior community center and knocking out a cop with a brick to the head. Really?

Were the police justified when they beat an unarmed suspect and denied him medical attention that would have saved his life? Were they justified when they refused to bring those responsible to justice?

“Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.” ― Martin Luther King Jr.

Re: Baltimore Residents Begin Clearing Debris After Night of Riots

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Did I see the Mayor of Baltimore at a press conference saying they "gave room for people that wanted to destroy"?

I think the context was in order to give space for nonviolent protest, they created a space where some people would act in unproductive/violent ways. My take was it was meant in a similar spirit as our free speech protections; allowing wide berths for free speech leads to a lot of destructive speech. Preventing nonviolent protests requires militarization a la Ferguson.

While I agree in sprit, I don't think that a quote like that should be spoken at a press conference, chopped, twisted and hashed by the media and then interpreted by already irrational protestors. It's encouraging violence and destruction of others property.

Re: Baltimore Residents Begin Clearing Debris After Night of Riots

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Justified burning down a brand new senior community center and knocking out a cop with a brick to the head. Really?

Were the police justified when they beat an unarmed suspect and denied him medical attention that would have saved his life? Were they justified when they refused to bring those responsible to justice?

That's an awfully big assumption. Was the fact that the police beat this guy and cracked his spine reported in the Baltimore Sun yesterday?

There has been no conclusion that that is the case. Those that are rioting are guilty of exactly what they accuse the police of. I believe the mayor called them "thugs".

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"the police said some firefighters were reportedly having cinder blocks heaved at them as they responded to emergencies." That's pathetic.

And the cops helped start the riots by throwing rocks at protestors. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/27/police-throw-rocks-...

Re: Baltimore Residents Begin Clearing Debris After Night of Riots

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"the police said some firefighters were reportedly having cinder blocks heaved at them as they responded to emergencies." That's pathetic.

More than pathetic, it proves that a subset of the protestors aren't really sympathetic to the cause - because this does nothing to solve racial tension, if anything, it exacerbates.

Who's trying to solve racial tension? People are just asking that the police do not beat them up and/or kill them.

Re: Baltimore Residents Begin Clearing Debris After Night of Riots

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Justified burning down a brand new senior community center and knocking out a cop with a brick to the head. Really?

Were the police justified when they beat an unarmed suspect and denied him medical attention that would have saved his life? Were they justified when they refused to bring those responsible to justice?

two wrongs = one right?

IF this event leads to better policing, you'll have an argument.

Nobody that holds power is thinking "these people deserve more" right now.

Re: Baltimore Residents Begin Clearing Debris After Night of Riots

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Were the police justified when they beat an unarmed suspect and denied him medical attention that would have saved his life? Were they justified when they refused to bring those responsible to justice?

“Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.” ― Martin Luther King Jr.

"I contend that the cry of 'black power' is, at bottom, a reaction to the reluctance of white power to make the kind of changes necessary to make justice a reality for the Negro. I think that we've got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard." ― Martin Luther King Jr.
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