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Inside Popcorn Time, the Piracy Party Hollywood Can't Stop

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Re: Inside Popcorn Time, the Piracy Party Hollywood Can't Stop

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There would be less incentive toward this kind of piracy if content producers and distributors could get their collective acts together with more liberal licensing. Popcorn Time is winning because it's easier to use and find content than any pay service. Like anything, you compete by making a better product/service -- not by complaining that your competitors are unfair. Of course, they are certainly unfair here, but…

The Internet broke the whole idea of charging for a digital copy of something. We’re seeing a struggle of powers as old power tries to cling on to the idea of charging people for digital copies but it will end sooner or later. One needs to think outside the box of capitalism being an appropriate system for all aspects of society.

Re: Inside Popcorn Time, the Piracy Party Hollywood Can't Stop

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There would be less incentive toward this kind of piracy if content producers and distributors could get their collective acts together with more liberal licensing. Popcorn Time is winning because it's easier to use and find content than any pay service. Like anything, you compete by making a better product/service -- not by complaining that your competitors are unfair. Of course, they are certainly unfair here, but…

I'd be interested to know how the piracy of music compares to the piracy of video. Which industry has better (legal) streaming options, and does this correlate with lower piracy?

Music streaming without a doubt. Spotify has claimed a massive drop in music piracy over the last few years since its widespread introduction.

Re: Inside Popcorn Time, the Piracy Party Hollywood Can't Stop

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There would be less incentive toward this kind of piracy if content producers and distributors could get their collective acts together with more liberal licensing. Popcorn Time is winning because it's easier to use and find content than any pay service. Like anything, you compete by making a better product/service -- not by complaining that your competitors are unfair. Of course, they are certainly unfair here, but…

I came here to say this, more or less.

Maybe when streaming services offer what I want to watch in better than current quality I'll consider stopping.

Until then I'll be using Canadian Netflix for 10% of my viewing and other methods for the other 90% that I can't pay for because I happen to not live in the US.

Copyright laws are killing the industry.

Re: Inside Popcorn Time, the Piracy Party Hollywood Can't Stop

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Here's an idea: read the article. If you still have questions after you've done that, then maybe ask them.

I just did this. It is not that ads are not possible, it is that ads are currently not shown. So here's a question: do we expect that to continue in perpetuity? My expectation would be that of the root comment: the website will in the future support its traffic and hosting costs with ads and make huge margins. Is there some reason why this expectation is foolish?

Popcorn Time is at its heart just a torrent client using streamed torrent download to pipe the result into a media player.

You can just feed a torrent file or a magnet link into Popcorn Time and it will play.

There are lots of torrent clients and media players that are free software which you can use to get the same result.

Your expection is baseless because said facts.

Re: Inside Popcorn Time, the Piracy Party Hollywood Can't Stop

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just did this. It is not that ads are not possible, it is that ads are currently not shown. So here's a question: do we expect that to continue in perpetuity? My expectation would be that of the root comment: the website will in the future support its traffic and hosting costs with ads and make huge margins. Is there some reason why this expectation is foolish?

Popcorn Time is at its heart just a torrent client using streamed torrent download to pipe the result into a media player. You can just feed a torrent file or a magnet link into Popcorn Time and it will play. There are lots of torrent clients and media players that are free software which you can use to get the same result. Your expection is baseless because said facts.

Right, but if you look at the large torrent sites they make large amounts of money from ads. They are 'free' but they make money (they don't make money from you - they make money by you).

Since popcorn time is effectively the same thing, I would expect the same thing. That's my grounding.

Re: Inside Popcorn Time, the Piracy Party Hollywood Can't Stop

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There would be less incentive toward this kind of piracy if content producers and distributors could get their collective acts together with more liberal licensing. Popcorn Time is winning because it's easier to use and find content than any pay service. Like anything, you compete by making a better product/service -- not by complaining that your competitors are unfair. Of course, they are certainly unfair here, but…

At some time pirates will need to address the convenience of being free. I use amazon video, which has had a grand total of three films I wanted but could not find. These are extremely convenient, easy to use services. The argument that piracy is more convenient may still hold water, but less each year.

Amazon Video doesn't work in Australia

Re: Inside Popcorn Time, the Piracy Party Hollywood Can't Stop

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There would be less incentive toward this kind of piracy if content producers and distributors could get their collective acts together with more liberal licensing. Popcorn Time is winning because it's easier to use and find content than any pay service. Like anything, you compete by making a better product/service -- not by complaining that your competitors are unfair. Of course, they are certainly unfair here, but…

Amazon Instant and iTunes work pretty well and have almost anything that Popcorn Time has. I really doubt people are doing Popcorn time because it is easier. Not paying anything is a huge feature.

I'm not going to pay for revocable licenses, jailed ecosystems or DMRed media.

Give me high quality flat files with good metadata, and I'll pay.

Re: Inside Popcorn Time, the Piracy Party Hollywood Can't Stop

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What mistifies me is the sheer callousness/arrogance of the popcorn time developers. They must know they are playing with fire in a very public way but there is no need for them to be doing so. If they were just releasing a torrent client with streaming and media managment capabilities (the interesting part of the app) they would be fine but they insist on being as provocative and explicit about their desire to viola…

I had the same response when Napster originally came out -- it was too arrogantly blatant, it would get smacked down ASAP.

And it did, but not before causing a significant shift in how seriously record labels approached downloadable music. Maybe something similar will happen here.

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