China rates its own citizens – including online behaviour
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#2The wet dream of all governments everywhere - the perfectly controlled citizen.
Re: China rates its own citizens – including online behaviour
#3What are the odds that something like this is already in place on global scale by some American spooks? To "fight the war on terrorism" or something. Surely it's not that difficult to do considering internet megacorps already do behaviour analysis and payment processors already keep track of what goes where, including credit scoring.
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#5Soviet Union tried to create a new citizen.
You won't easily find creature more miserable than their result. Alcohol consumption spiked and life expectancy actually plummeted.
Re: China rates its own citizens – including online behaviour
#6The wet dream of all governments everywhere - the perfectly controlled citizen.
This is just the initial phase - finding out the traits of the perfectly controlled citizen. Next is actually creating such citizens. I wouldn't be surprised if within 3 decades China regulates how parents design their children at birth (as in they'll all have to design them to be compliant to the government in adulthood).
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/designer-babies-on-the-way-in-ch...
Re: China rates its own citizens – including online behaviour
#7What are the odds that something like this is already in place on global scale by some American spooks? To "fight the war on terrorism" or something. Surely it's not that difficult to do considering internet megacorps already do behaviour analysis and payment processors already keep track of what goes where, including credit scoring.
I doubt it. To make it work, you need leverage. Make citizen's life slightly easier or slightly worse based on his score.
Worse access to credit, withholding from top universities, preventing from starting a business - not easy to do anything like that on a grand scale in market society. So you won't exactly be making a new citizen.
Re: China rates its own citizens – including online behaviour
#8The wet dream of all governments everywhere - the perfectly controlled citizen.
This is just the initial phase - finding out the traits of the perfectly controlled citizen. Next is actually creating such citizens. I wouldn't be surprised if within 3 decades China regulates how parents design their children at birth (as in they'll all have to design them to be compliant to the government in adulthood). http://www.cbsnews.com/news/designer-babies-on-the-way-in-ch...
See, the thing about this comment isn't that I believe it couldn't happen. It's that I for damn sure don't think it will only be done by China.
The designing will be regulated in all countries, some attributes will be ruled unsafe to alter, or only allowed to be altered in specific fashions. The appropriate medical council variant will explain rationally that it's unsafe to do otherwise for such and such reasons. The line between medical justification and political meddling is pretty easy to blur with a bit of pressure and some good relationships.
Re: China rates its own citizens – including online behaviour
#9What are the odds that something like this is already in place on global scale by some American spooks? To "fight the war on terrorism" or something. Surely it's not that difficult to do considering internet megacorps already do behaviour analysis and payment processors already keep track of what goes where, including credit scoring.
I doubt it. To make it work, you need leverage. Make citizen's life slightly easier or slightly worse based on his score. Worse access to credit, withholding from top universities, preventing from starting a business - not easy to do anything like that on a grand scale in market society. So you won't exactly be making a new citizen.
I presume Aoyagi meant a system like this but for monitoring, not shaping behaviour.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
I doubt it. To make it work, you need leverage. Make citizen's life slightly easier or slightly worse based on his score. Worse access to credit, withholding from top universities, preventing from starting a business - not easy to do anything like that on a grand scale in market society. So you won't exactly be making a new citizen.
I presume Aoyagi meant a system like this but for monitoring, not shaping behaviour.
What's the point of monitoring things you won't be able to affect? Some agencies would love to spend the money on it tho, if allocated.