Here's the take-away quotation for me: The better the professors were, as measured by their students' grades in later classes, the lower their ratings from students. "If you make your students do well in their academic career, you get worse evaluations from your students," Pellizzari said. Students, by and large, don't enjoy learning from a taskmaster, even if it does them some good.
I don't think that applies at the college/university level. Evaluations are at the end of the course and you will know if you have learned a lot. The problem is profs just reading the textbook or parts of the textbook in a powerpoint, without challenging students.
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think that applies at the college/university level. Evaluations are at the end of the course and you will know if you have learned a lot. The problem is profs just reading the textbook or parts of the textbook in a powerpoint, without challenging students.
Even at the college/university level I have seen students complaining about professors that were fairly good, sometimes just because the grading was a bit tough.
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I don't think that applies at the college/university level. Evaluations are at the end of the course and you will know if you have learned a lot. The problem is profs just reading the textbook or parts of the textbook in a powerpoint, without challenging students.
By the end of the course they'd only know they've got an exam to pass and they'll hate it. Students should not have any say in anything related to their courses, professors, marking, workload and such.
Profs that consistently get poor reviews are getting them for a reason.
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#14Everyone would get an "A"?
You can still not learn very much and still get a good grade. Students are attending to learn and will give negative reviews when they are not learning as much as they expected they would learn.
Depends very much on the course. A lot courses are attended by a lot of students who just need the course to fulfill some requirement and want nothing more than to get a pass with as little work as possible.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think that applies at the college/university level. Evaluations are at the end of the course and you will know if you have learned a lot. The problem is profs just reading the textbook or parts of the textbook in a powerpoint, without challenging students.
Even at the college/university level I have seen students complaining about professors that were fairly good, sometimes just because the grading was a bit tough.
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#16I am not in academia, but in retrospective some of my greatest professors where very hard to deal teachers with huge fail rates. Most students hated them.
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#17The great majority of the students doesn't know how the sausage is made and should well keep out of personnel decisions. They don't even know what the sausage is!
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#18Here's the take-away quotation for me: The better the professors were, as measured by their students' grades in later classes, the lower their ratings from students. "If you make your students do well in their academic career, you get worse evaluations from your students," Pellizzari said. Students, by and large, don't enjoy learning from a taskmaster, even if it does them some good.
I don't think that applies at the college/university level. Evaluations are at the end of the course and you will know if you have learned a lot. The problem is profs just reading the textbook or parts of the textbook in a powerpoint, without challenging students.
Students, and probably just people in general, are really bad at knowing what they have learned.
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#20The university had a rule of never taking these things to court, so they would always settle. Even when it was stupid things like students violating an attendance policy, failing their class because of it, and then getting off scott free beacuse their parents called a lawyer.
Disgusting practice.