I hope google penalizes such kind of behavior in their search results
India’s Flipkart to shut down website, thanks to popularity of mobile
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Re: India’s Flipkart to shut down website, thanks to popularity of mobile
#42I am an regular Flipkart User, and I do not like this behaviour, Flipkart is forcing me to move to an mobile app, just to have better control and tracking. They have already stopped supporting the mobile website, and it simply instructs you to download the app to continue. This is the moment I have completely stopped using flipkart and moved to amazon.in I like website more than app, both gets the job done, where as…
Regarding the list of permission, my reaction was no wonder. Just couple of days ago, I got this news that Flipkart is going to start something in advertisement domain. They( and almost every other internet company?) want as much data as they can gather.
Re: India’s Flipkart to shut down website, thanks to popularity of mobile
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
What the freaking hell. Android permissions are jacked up.
Oh, don't worry, it gets worse: * Android does not let you selectively grant permissions (unlike iOS) * Android expects you to give an app all permissions at once at install time, carte blanche (unlike iOS) * Doing certain very basic things often requires a broad permission - for example, checking if music is playing so the app can mute itself? "Read phone state" - which includes the phone number you're calling * Goo…
Potentially even worse, Google had an excellent per application permissions system they were working on in Android 4.2 & 4.3 called App Ops that worked similarly to iOS, but that project appears to have now been cancelled: http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/26/android-app-ops/
Re: India’s Flipkart to shut down website, thanks to popularity of mobile
#44I am an regular Flipkart User, and I do not like this behaviour, Flipkart is forcing me to move to an mobile app, just to have better control and tracking. They have already stopped supporting the mobile website, and it simply instructs you to download the app to continue. This is the moment I have completely stopped using flipkart and moved to amazon.in I like website more than app, both gets the job done, where as…
"See the list of permission used by the app below"
The permissions demanded by android apps have moved from alarming to out and out clownish.
Imagine consenting to this:
"modify or delete the contents of your USB storage"
they are asking you to backdoor your own device.
Re: India’s Flipkart to shut down website, thanks to popularity of mobile
#45Unreal. Do they really expect it to cost more to maintain their web presence in addition to their mobile app than their web presence will make them? If you already have a back-end for servicing all of those mobile apps, is having an HTML front-end really that difficult? I vastly prefer doing almost anything I can think of on a real desktop with big displays and a good keyboard over a mobile app. Am I that out of touc…
One reason I haven't seen mentioned yet is that countries like India can be overwhelmingly mobile-dominated (as in, few people own desktops). I never had data on India but in places like the Philippines or Indonesia (with similar GDP/capita), your buyer's only internet access might come from his (very basic) smartphone and I sometimes saw > 90% mobile visits. At a previous company, we saw our Indonesian traffic soar…
The issue here is that Flipkart is not poor. It is one of the largest private companies in India, with valuations at $11 billion. They have already spun off their costlier operations (such as courier and warehousing) into separate companies which they have since sold off.
The only thing flipkart is doing right now is tech and sales. They are definitely not "limited" by money or IT resources.
Re: India’s Flipkart to shut down website, thanks to popularity of mobile
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
What about Gopher? FTP? Usenet? AOL? WAP? HTTP/HTML is just another way of consuming the content, but the justification for using it over other mediums is that usage is high enough. If it falls below a certain threshold, then it makes sense to throw it out, just like the other low-performing mediums. Although walled-garden reasoning may also play a factor, a simple market-driven analysis would be sufficient in many c…
Not quite. Absolute traffic levels don't matter. The only time it makes sense to throw it out, as the parent comment suggested, is if the maintenance costs exceed the benefits. Even if the usage is low compared to mobile, it only makes sense to stop if it's a long-term net negative. Personally, this makes me suspect bad architecture. If they've got well-factored APIs, the additional cost of maintaining a modest web p…
Yes, exactly. Any CEO worth his salt would know to hedge his bets and stay on a platform till its already dead. That is what Stephen Elop taught everyone.
I do think that some amount of bad architecture is involved, but flipkart does have a lot of money, and a lot of good engineers. They even have cool stuff on github [0], which needs good people. They have likely fixed their architecture issues by now.
Flipkart has money, and lots of it (current valuation is $11 billion). There is absolutely no way that they are considering this on a cost-analysis basis.
Re: India’s Flipkart to shut down website, thanks to popularity of mobile
#47Um, I suspect that the reason is much simpler. An app can authorize a purchase through the phone provider. A website requires a credit card.
This is interesting. India the primary way for in app purchase is via the provider. Credit card penetration is low.
Even in cases where you have a Credit Card, there are many hoops to fly through before you can make an in-app purchase:
- It must be an international credit card - It must never have 3d-secure enabled
International Credit Cards are costlier, and it just takes one payment on an Indian gateway to enable 3dsecure accidentally. And then, you can't use your card again on any international purchase because no international gateway supports 3dsecure.
Re: India’s Flipkart to shut down website, thanks to popularity of mobile
#48I am an regular Flipkart User, and I do not like this behaviour, Flipkart is forcing me to move to an mobile app, just to have better control and tracking. They have already stopped supporting the mobile website, and it simply instructs you to download the app to continue. This is the moment I have completely stopped using flipkart and moved to amazon.in I like website more than app, both gets the job done, where as…
It's already past time that Android had (out-of-the-box) a "don't grant access but make the application think I did"-checkbox.
Essentially, showing fake data to the app if you pick this (eg: no photos, fake contacts, etc).
AFAIK, there are some android apps (and cyanogen) that add this features, but it really needs to be worked on upstream.
This is doubly useful for google, since they can always keep their own apps as "superprivilidged" on google-sponsored phones.
Re: India’s Flipkart to shut down website, thanks to popularity of mobile
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
What the freaking hell. Android permissions are jacked up.
Oh, don't worry, it gets worse: * Android does not let you selectively grant permissions (unlike iOS) * Android expects you to give an app all permissions at once at install time, carte blanche (unlike iOS) * Doing certain very basic things often requires a broad permission - for example, checking if music is playing so the app can mute itself? "Read phone state" - which includes the phone number you're calling * Goo…
Do these problems exists on rooted devices also? Is there any work around or some tweak?
Re: India’s Flipkart to shut down website, thanks to popularity of mobile
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is interesting. India the primary way for in app purchase is via the provider. Credit card penetration is low.
Even in cases where you have a Credit Card, there are many hoops to fly through before you can make an in-app purchase: - It must be an international credit card - It must never have 3d-secure enabled International Credit Cards are costlier, and it just takes one payment on an Indian gateway to enable 3dsecure accidentally. And then, you can't use your card again on any international purchase because no international…
Are you trying to say that Indian credit cards that are 3D-secure enabled don't work for IAP? This is absolutely untrue. I have both AMEX and Visa cards issued in India, and simultaneously use them for domestic and international online purchases, IAPs, and in-store. Never had a problem. Frankly, I've never heard this.