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Amazon Finally Discloses Cloud Services Sales, Showing 49% Jump

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Re: Amazon Finally Discloses Cloud Services Sales, Showing 49% Jump

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TL;DR on AWS - $1.57b in revenue in Q12015 on $22.72B total ($5B annualized for AWS) - $265m in operating income (net loss for Amazon as a whole was $57m) Looks like revenue was slightly lower but operating income quite a bit higher than most Wall Street estimates.

I just don't understand when people use TL;DR and comment on an article they have not even read.

Re: Amazon Finally Discloses Cloud Services Sales, Showing 49% Jump

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"Since its inception, Amazon has refined and expanded AWS while competitors including Microsoft and Google have tried to replicate its success with similar projects. Those companies have only recently started to deliver basic services on par with Amazon’s." Is this really true? I know that AWS offers many more services than competitors currently, but for the services for which there is a competing product, is the AWS…

In my opinion, Google is ahead of AWS in most aspects besides access control. GCE instances vs. EC2: faster boot times, better network, a far better pricing model for startups (no upfront cost and year-long lock-in to possibly outdated instance types). Yes, Amazon offers a bigger variety of products, but the newer ones just scream vendor lock-in without much-added benefit. Why would I use Opsworks if Chef or Ansible…

What's the basis of your argument that Google Cloud is better?

My personal experience has been exactly the opposite - AWS is light years ahead of Google Cloud. Does Google Cloud provide Machine Learning service?

For the longest time, it was only supporting Java and Python SDKs. And the Google's API is still very much lacking in terms of features and stacks. In fact the better support and much comprehensive services presents more choices rather than "vender lock-in". Keep in mind, all the auxiliary services are simply the open source technologies builds on top of AWS EC2 - if you like to spend time and money, you can totally build your own!

And this is common, as we've just seen people complain about Google Cloud 4 days ago.

https://yourbunnywrote.org/2015/04/19/google-cloud/

Re: Amazon Finally Discloses Cloud Services Sales, Showing 49% Jump

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Thats not the question. Yes, AWS is way ahead of the other cloud providers in every way.

I spoke with a Google channel lead who said Google's cloud is 5x the size of Amazon's. The policy is not to talk about it publicly because Google itself uses its own cloud tremendously and the 5x size was not something customers necessarily utilize.

Most analysts seem to think that AWS is way bigger than Google's public cloud. That channel lead may well be right in terms of total number of servers or MW of datacenter capacity.

BUT scale is not the only thing that the cloud brings. AWS is not just S3 and EC2. I think it's pretty clear that Amazon is much further along the road of productizing their cloud. i.e. providing all the products that businesses and most notably enterprises need to move to the cloud. It will take a while for Google (and Microsoft) to catch up in this area.

Re: Amazon Finally Discloses Cloud Services Sales, Showing 49% Jump

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post #31
post #9

TL;DR on AWS - $1.57b in revenue in Q12015 on $22.72B total ($5B annualized for AWS) - $265m in operating income (net loss for Amazon as a whole was $57m) Looks like revenue was slightly lower but operating income quite a bit higher than most Wall Street estimates.

I just don't understand when people use TL;DR and comment on an article they have not even read.

It's a way to say "to people not interested in reading the entire article, this is the most important information:"

Re: Amazon Finally Discloses Cloud Services Sales, Showing 49% Jump

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post #31
post #9

TL;DR on AWS - $1.57b in revenue in Q12015 on $22.72B total ($5B annualized for AWS) - $265m in operating income (net loss for Amazon as a whole was $57m) Looks like revenue was slightly lower but operating income quite a bit higher than most Wall Street estimates.

I just don't understand when people use TL;DR and comment on an article they have not even read.

He was summarizing the "cloud services" relevant points for those for whom the article is "too long, (won't|didn't) read"

Re: Amazon Finally Discloses Cloud Services Sales, Showing 49% Jump

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my opinion, Google is ahead of AWS in most aspects besides access control. GCE instances vs. EC2: faster boot times, better network, a far better pricing model for startups (no upfront cost and year-long lock-in to possibly outdated instance types). Yes, Amazon offers a bigger variety of products, but the newer ones just scream vendor lock-in without much-added benefit. Why would I use Opsworks if Chef or Ansible…

What's the basis of your argument that Google Cloud is better? My personal experience has been exactly the opposite - AWS is light years ahead of Google Cloud. Does Google Cloud provide Machine Learning service? For the longest time, it was only supporting Java and Python SDKs. And the Google's API is still very much lacking in terms of features and stacks. In fact the better support and much comprehensive services p…

Yep. Google hasn't met any of my needs when I play with it. I always end up back on AWS. Lambda is a stunning system IMHO.

I do like Google's new DB. It is like an easy to use spark w/ cassandra backend, all behind the scenes. Very nice.

Re: Amazon Finally Discloses Cloud Services Sales, Showing 49% Jump

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my opinion, Google is ahead of AWS in most aspects besides access control. GCE instances vs. EC2: faster boot times, better network, a far better pricing model for startups (no upfront cost and year-long lock-in to possibly outdated instance types). Yes, Amazon offers a bigger variety of products, but the newer ones just scream vendor lock-in without much-added benefit. Why would I use Opsworks if Chef or Ansible…

What's the basis of your argument that Google Cloud is better? My personal experience has been exactly the opposite - AWS is light years ahead of Google Cloud. Does Google Cloud provide Machine Learning service? For the longest time, it was only supporting Java and Python SDKs. And the Google's API is still very much lacking in terms of features and stacks. In fact the better support and much comprehensive services p…

> Does Google Cloud provide Machine Learning service?

Yes they do. [0]

> And this is common, as we've just seen people complain about Google Cloud 4 days ago.

To me, this is an isolated incident. On the other hand, seemingly every AWS customer of non-trivial size had to reboot a significant part of their machines in the last year because of Xen vulnerabilities (with no way to predict if you will land on a patched machine).

[0] https://cloud.google.com/prediction/docs

Re: Amazon Finally Discloses Cloud Services Sales, Showing 49% Jump

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post #31

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I just don't understand when people use TL;DR and comment on an article they have not even read.

It's a way to say "to people not interested in reading the entire article, this is the most important information:"

Yep - the article itself isn't terrible exciting outside of the core AWS numbers, but this now serves as the place for the HN community to talk about it - because the numbers are what's interesting.

Re: Amazon Finally Discloses Cloud Services Sales, Showing 49% Jump

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats not the question. Yes, AWS is way ahead of the other cloud providers in every way.

I spoke with a Google channel lead who said Google's cloud is 5x the size of Amazon's. The policy is not to talk about it publicly because Google itself uses its own cloud tremendously and the 5x size was not something customers necessarily utilize.

He may be comparing Google's total data center capacity (search, cloud, etc.) to AWS. I do monthly scraping to track cloud marketshare for Alexa 10k and Fortune 500. From that analysis, EC2 is at 12-14% marketshare compared to http://blog.cloudharmony.com/2015/03/compute-marketshare-ale...

Re: Amazon Finally Discloses Cloud Services Sales, Showing 49% Jump

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my opinion, Google is ahead of AWS in most aspects besides access control. GCE instances vs. EC2: faster boot times, better network, a far better pricing model for startups (no upfront cost and year-long lock-in to possibly outdated instance types). Yes, Amazon offers a bigger variety of products, but the newer ones just scream vendor lock-in without much-added benefit. Why would I use Opsworks if Chef or Ansible…

What's the basis of your argument that Google Cloud is better? My personal experience has been exactly the opposite - AWS is light years ahead of Google Cloud. Does Google Cloud provide Machine Learning service? For the longest time, it was only supporting Java and Python SDKs. And the Google's API is still very much lacking in terms of features and stacks. In fact the better support and much comprehensive services p…

https://cloud.google.com/prediction has been out for years.
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