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Re: Apple now rejecting apps with Pebble Smartwatch support

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I'm probably more progressive than most on HN, and would love to see big conglomerates broken up. But on this issue, I think the accusations of illegal activity are absurd for multiple reasons. 1) Apple does not have anything near total domination in the mobile arena. 2) Apple clearly has a right to control the content in their App Store. Whether that's removing offensive material or just material they don't like. 3)…

> If you want to go after Apple, go after the way they don't allow consumers to modify the software or install custom software on iOS. I agree, because this is practically the same issue. The app store isn't just a way to get iOS software, it's the only way to get iOS software. Which means that being rejected from the app store means you cannot provide your product to those consumers. Which means Apple rejecting prod…

We only differ on whether Apple should be compelled to host content it doesn't want to. I would say no, but it should be compelled to allow iPhone owners to modify their devices and install third party software.

Re: Apple now rejecting apps with Pebble Smartwatch support

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"By that logic" doesn't belong anywhere near a discussion of Apple review guidelines or behavior. The only thing they are consistent about when reviewing iOS apps is being completely inconsistent. You cannot point to the acceptance of one app as evidence that some rule isn't being applied to another app. Apple constantly rejects apps for claimed rule violations while allowing other apps through with identical violati…

Do we know how the app approval process works internally? I've never been involved with iOS, but from the various articles I've read, it sounds like there is a large team involved with approvals, their process is largely manual, their internal documentation is lacking, and they're probably missing simple things like checklists.

I suspect there are vague instructions preferred over hard-and-fast guidelines that can be leaked to the press and quoted in hearings.

Re: Apple now rejecting apps with Pebble Smartwatch support

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A good reminder of what it would be like if we lived in a world where there is no Android and iOS is a monopoly. Apple's anti competitive behavior puts Microsoft of the 90s to shame.

Google actually just stated they moved to in person reviews, so expect Android to get just as bad.

They actually stated they moved to reviewing apps several months ago. They are just letting us know now. No one noticed.

Re: Apple now rejecting apps with Pebble Smartwatch support

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post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"By that logic" doesn't belong anywhere near a discussion of Apple review guidelines or behavior. The only thing they are consistent about when reviewing iOS apps is being completely inconsistent. You cannot point to the acceptance of one app as evidence that some rule isn't being applied to another app. Apple constantly rejects apps for claimed rule violations while allowing other apps through with identical violati…

It does belong because the claim is that Apple is actively denying apps that support Pebble (which is not true). If Apple were doing that, they'd have taken down the official Pebble app entirely. You're muddying the entire discussion bringing in the consistency of Apple's enforcement of rules or how fair the rules are. None of that matters in this discussion. What matters is that some dev made a wild claim that Apple…

The whole point of my post is that if Apple were actively denying apps that support Pebble they would not necessarily have taken down the official Pebble app, because that sort of inconsistency is exactly how they operate.

They can and do say "All apps that do X are forbidden" while not taking down some apps that clearly do X.

Re: Apple now rejecting apps with Pebble Smartwatch support

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Title is misleading. They're not rejecting apps that code in support for Pebble. They're rejecting apps that say they support it in the App Store copy. This is nothing new; you've never been able to mention other platforms in your App Store copy.

Title isn't misleading. So you can support the Pebble Smartwatch, you just can't tell anyone about it?

Re: Apple now rejecting apps with Pebble Smartwatch support

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I am no lawyer, but this sounds like an antitrust lawsuit waiting to happen. Apple, IMO, should not be allowed to monopolize their platform in this way.

Should Walmart, who has 100% market share of people walking in a Walmart right now, have control over what is on their shelves? Should Disney have control over what stores are on Disney Main St.? iPhones are not the only choice, so if you don't like how they work, you can choose not to buy them (because they have significant competition). The reason there are laws that limit monopoly behavior is because you wouldn't…

I totally agree with this analogy. All of the hate in these threads is just... weird.

Maybe it's because people relate better to the developers who are losing money, than the company who is controlling it. My bet is someone with a basic understanding of business and marketing would side with Apple, and everyone else would side with the little guy, even if the little guy isn't in the right.

Re: Apple now rejecting apps with Pebble Smartwatch support

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They didn't say the support had to be removed just the mentioning of the other platform.

It is still anticompetitive, suppressing information about a competitor's product helps the consumer in 0 ways.

You start up movie theater. You sell ads to marketing companies for before the movie. One of those ads is pushing a competing movie theater.

Are you really saying you would allow it to run just so that you can 'help the consumer'?

Businesses are in competition... that's how the market works.

Re: Apple now rejecting apps with Pebble Smartwatch support

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The Runkeeper app explicitly mentions Pebble Support, and was released on the 20th of April. https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/runkeeper-gps-running-walk/i... I'm going to wait a little before passing judgement on this. Could just be a bad review/er. I do feel sorry for these devs though, running to 'the press' is something Apple passive-aggressively warns you not to do. Their future app-approval life could be quite un…

Then the "bad" reviewer would have been the one the approved the RunKeeper app since the guideslines specifically state that "Apps or metadata that mentions the name of any other mobile platform will be rejected"[1]. Edit: I do not endorse the app store guidelines. [1] https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#met...

Except Pebble isn't another mobile platform. It is an accessory.
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