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> It's one thing to offer "unlimited data" for a fixed price - which is about ideal for a consumer, but that doesn't exist anymore. Yes it does; both Sprint and T-Mobile offer it (alongside their respective non-unlimited plans). The fact that Google Fi doesn't despite using those two carriers as its "partners" is incredibly disappointing.

If bandwidth is scarce there's always an incentive to go towards "pay for what you use" schemes, though. It's like an insurance "death spiral"[1] -- if one provider provides fixed-cost internet (or wide "bands"), the customers who use the least data will subsidise those who use the most. If another provider offers them internet at the true marginal rate, they'll move there. After they've moved on, the fixed-cost inte…

The transaction cost is often higher for pay as you go (Did I use up my cap? I hope next bill wont be too large! Need to remember to top up soon).

Those who use the least, can then feel that it is easier to slightly overpay for fixed pricing.

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> Pay one rate for data around the world > > In 120+ countries, data usage costs the same $10 per GB > as it does in the US (data speed is limited to 256kbps/3G). > Check email, get directions, and keep in touch with friends > and family when on your trip. Also, call around the world > for 20c per minute and send unlimited international texts. This sounds incredible. Roaming cellular transmission costs are enormous.…

Let me join the international domestic mobile plans pricing party.

In Latvia we have unlimited calls and messages for 9.95€. Add unlimited 2G/3G/4G data for 9.99€. That's roughly 20€ for unlimited everything. Tethering is not disabled, however, you could get downgraded to slower speeds for abuse (torrents & alike; never heard of this being enforced).

Roaming charges in while in EU are regulated at 0.19€ per minute, messages for 0.09€ per minute. Data is still expensive, though - 0,20€ per MB. Mobile operators provide roaming data packages, which might lower your data bill to 0.14€ per MB.

There is a upcoming EU roam-like-home regulation, which would mean that you never pay more than at home for anything - including data.

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What are the pro/cons of wifi versus 3G/4G ? I guess Wifi is a simpler hardware standard ?

Or does 3g/4g enable more distance and mobility and allow towers to "connect" more terminals at the same time?

I'm puzzled by wireless data layers as google had some wimax project in mind, but I've no clue how those technologies work. I can understand wired networks, but wireless seems like a mystery to me (I also wish there would be more open standards for long distance data channels).

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#564

For those who don't want to read the FAQ or find the video incredibly unhelpful [1]: a. It only supports the Nexus 6 out of the gate. b. It automatically switches you to the "fastest" network available. Partners out of the gate are Sprint and T-mobile. Sounds like it prefers Wifi, then 4G LTE, and then degrades down to 3G or 2G. c. Pricing is $20 for unlimited talk (domestic) and text (domestic and international) and…

Everything you said is correct, I just want to make two tiny clarifications: - It is unlimited talk (domestic) and unlimited text (domestic and international). International talk costs extra. What was said in your post was accurate, but the way it was worded could confuse people into believing that it is unlimited international talk. The pricing is a little more nuanced than you said. - It is $20 (talk/text) and then…

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For those who don't want to read the FAQ or find the video incredibly unhelpful [1]: a. It only supports the Nexus 6 out of the gate. b. It automatically switches you to the "fastest" network available. Partners out of the gate are Sprint and T-mobile. Sounds like it prefers Wifi, then 4G LTE, and then degrades down to 3G or 2G. c. Pricing is $20 for unlimited talk (domestic) and text (domestic and international) and…

Everything you said is correct, I just want to make two tiny clarifications: - It is unlimited talk (domestic) and unlimited text (domestic and international). International talk costs extra. What was said in your post was accurate, but the way it was worded could confuse people into believing that it is unlimited international talk. The pricing is a little more nuanced than you said. - It is $20 (talk/text) and then…

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For those who don't want to read the FAQ or find the video incredibly unhelpful [1]: a. It only supports the Nexus 6 out of the gate. b. It automatically switches you to the "fastest" network available. Partners out of the gate are Sprint and T-mobile. Sounds like it prefers Wifi, then 4G LTE, and then degrades down to 3G or 2G. c. Pricing is $20 for unlimited talk (domestic) and text (domestic and international) and…

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For those who don't want to read the FAQ or find the video incredibly unhelpful [1]: a. It only supports the Nexus 6 out of the gate. b. It automatically switches you to the "fastest" network available. Partners out of the gate are Sprint and T-mobile. Sounds like it prefers Wifi, then 4G LTE, and then degrades down to 3G or 2G. c. Pricing is $20 for unlimited talk (domestic) and text (domestic and international) and…

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add a vpn on top?

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This is insane. I can't think of an industry that google is not trying to compete in. Auto industry, space industry, internet of things industry (Nest), internet/media industry, cable/internet provider industry, automobile industry, robotics industry, software industry, smartphone industry, pc industry now the telecom industry. I'm starting to expect Google to launch an airline here pretty soon. How can they possibly…

The Google is not a company.
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