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Re: Project Fi by Google

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Post by fragmede »

Aradalf wrote: post #386
nevir wrote: post #374

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree. Edit: Looks like the Sony Z3C is a (and the only?) contender! --- But, I've also given up on that front. The last phone that was (barely) usable one-handed for me was the original Moto X. At this point, there is literally not a single phone on the market that (that I can find): * Runs a recent version of Android (or iOS) * Is * Has a recent/"fast" CPU/GPU So, fuck it, time to give in and go with a phablet.

...The iPhone 6 is 4.7" and has the best processor on the market.

4.7" is the screen diagonal. The total height, including the top and bottom border is listed as 5.44". This is according to Apple. http://www.apple.com/iphone-6/specs/

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Post by waterlesscloud »

GigabyteCoin wrote: post #242

Two things I notice looking at the coverage map.[0] 1. Wow, it's available in Canada right off the bat. This must be a first for Google. 2. Does nobody in Montana own a cell phone? Alberta is probably equally empty as Montana, and yet almost their entire provice has coverage. [0] https://fi.google.com/coverage

Does all that region above Edmonton really have 2g coverage? How? Why?

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Post by dcotton »

azinman2 wrote: post #221
jamroom wrote: post #185

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Just as a point of reference, this is about on par with AT&T family share plans - I pay $145 a month for 3 iphones, unlimited text and talk with 10 gigs shared data. With taxes and fees it comes out to right around $160 (which would be the same here if I used all 10 gigs). The down side is that I'm not refunded for any unused data, so I pay that every month. But we use a good chunk of it every month, so this wouldn't…

Wow are those smartphones? Somehow I'm paying $100/mo for just my iPhone, 3 gigs of data and unlimited text.

With T-mobile I pay $100 (+ ~$8 tax/fees) for 2 smartphones with unlimited everything (data is never cut off or throttled as well). Look into a new plan!

Re: Project Fi by Google

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Post by dntrkv »

seanflyon wrote: post #124
dntrkv wrote: post #81

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They are not really competing in all of those industries, they might have a crazy project they are attempting, but they aren't really competition. Auto industry? I'm assuming you mean self driving cars, which, at this point, are still in the concept phase. Space industry? Did I miss something, is Google launching rockets? There are many other companies that are way more diversified than Google. http://en.wikipedia.or…

> still in the concept phase Multiple generations of prototypes and hundreds of thousands of miles driven is well past the concept phase.

This just comes down to your definition of concept. I consider a prototype as a concept car that exists to show the feasibility of the concept but it has a ways to go before it is ready for production.

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Post by zephyrthenoble »

tshtf wrote: post #376

With Cricket Wireless ( https://www.cricketwireless.com/cell-phone-plans ), I can use the vastly superior AT&T network and spend $60/month for 10GB of data, plus unlimited voice and text. This would cost $120/month on Project Fi, and I'd be forced to use T-Mobile and Sprint, both of which have inferior coverage in the US.

Do you use 10GB of data a month?

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Post by yellowapple »

VikingCoder wrote: post #356
yellowapple wrote: post #298

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> As people use more and more data, it just won't make economic sense to offer your customers unlimited data. It makes perfect economic sense. Users who expect to need a lot of data (e.g. anyone who watches or wants to watch HD videos over a cellular connection, which is a lot of people) would be better served by T-Mobile's or Sprint's unlimited (non-throttled) data plans (which run for somewhere between $70 and $90…

I'm not sure you're getting me. I'm saying that eventually T-Mobile and Sprint will not be able to offer $70 or $90 a month for unlimited data. Or if they do, it will be so throttled as to be completely meaningless. I'm predicting that as more people use more of their data, the network will not grow fast enough to support the total bandwidth. The fact that they can currently offer "unlimited" is a temporary condition…

And I'm saying that getting rid of unlimited data doesn't solve the problem of network congestion. Actually putting work into the network does solve the problem of network congestion.

Don't punish users because you're too lazy to provide them with a network that's actually designed to handle current/future data demand.

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Post by ElijahLynn »

MBlume wrote: post #101
tomhschmidt wrote: post #93

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This plan actually makes no sense. Overage charges are the same rate ($10 / GB), so why am I buying a "plan" at all? Why don't they just charge $10 * x gigs / month instead of all this buying / refunding business?

People think they don't want to pay by the megabyte, so they're calling it something else. Also the plan provides a cap so that you know you're not going to pay more than $X per month without going to some app and adjusting something.

There isn't actually a cap.

Q: What happens if I go over my data budget?

A: Project Fi will first alert you if you're getting close to your data budget. If you go over, you'll still get full-speed data and data is charged at the same $10 per GB rate. For example, if you go over your data budget by 350MB, $3.50 will be added to your next bill."

source: https://fi.google.com/about/faq/#plan-and-pricing-4

Re: Project Fi by Google

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Post by ElijahLynn »

Raphael wrote: post #252
dntrkv wrote: post #81

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They are not really competing in all of those industries, they might have a crazy project they are attempting, but they aren't really competition. Auto industry? I'm assuming you mean self driving cars, which, at this point, are still in the concept phase. Space industry? Did I miss something, is Google launching rockets? There are many other companies that are way more diversified than Google. http://en.wikipedia.or…

Satellite photography appears in Google Maps, so rockets are needed at some point.

Actually, they already launched a GeoEye-1 satellite on September 6, 2008 at 11:50:57 a.m. PDT.

"Google, which has its logo on the side of the rocket, has exclusive online mapping use of its data."

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoEye-1

Re: Project Fi by Google

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Post by jessaustin »

fragmede wrote: post #391
Aradalf wrote: post #386

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...The iPhone 6 is 4.7" and has the best processor on the market.

4.7" is the screen diagonal. The total height, including the top and bottom border is listed as 5.44". This is according to Apple. http://www.apple.com/iphone-6/specs/

This seems unlikely, as cell phones are generally rectangular and have flat screens.

EDIT: maybe you could try drawing a screen with a 5.44" height and 4.7" diagonal. Euclid will not be your friend.

Re: Project Fi by Google

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Post by wtallis »

joshfraser wrote: post #343

I want this as my travel phone. And I love that there's no contract. Not sure how I feel about Google pulling a man-in-the-middle on all of my internet traffic, texts and calls. Kinda scary that they automatically pipe all wifi through their VPN, but I guess they have 90% of that data already and Google are probably safer than the random coffee shop wifi people are used to connecting to.

I suspect part of the motivation for the automatic VPN on public WiFi comes from Republic Wireless's troubles with firewalls that interfere with standard VoIP protocols.
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