Live data from Hacker News

Project Fi by Google

fi.google.com

381–390 of 608 posts

Re: Project Fi by Google

#381

For those who don't want to read the FAQ or find the video incredibly unhelpful [1]: a. It only supports the Nexus 6 out of the gate. b. It automatically switches you to the "fastest" network available. Partners out of the gate are Sprint and T-mobile. Sounds like it prefers Wifi, then 4G LTE, and then degrades down to 3G or 2G. c. Pricing is $20 for unlimited talk (domestic) and text (domestic and international) and…

I've been really excited about this upcoming announcement, but I'm disappointed at the pricing.

I used 15GB last month, so I'd pay more than double what I pay now for "unlimited" data.

Re: Project Fi by Google

#382
post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also use an AT&T share plan and they recently started rolling over unused data. So while I'm not getting money back I feel like I'm at least accruing something when I don't get close to my max. Depending on your plan they might be doing the same for you now too?

They roll it over but it is the last used and is only rolled over a single month. Month 1: Get 10 Use 5 = 5 rolled over. Month 2: Get 10 Rollover 5 Use 5 (of the 10) Lose 5 (already rolled over) = 5 rolled over. Month 3: Get 10 Rollover 5 Use 5 (of the 10) Lose 5 (already rolled over) = 5 rolled over. Month 4: Get 10 Rollover 5 Use 5 (of the 10) Lose 5 (already rolled over) = 5 rolled over. By Month 5, you would thin…

AT&T: We'll always find a way to fuck you.

Re: Project Fi by Google

#383

In my experience, video chat through Google hangout uses about 1G/hour. $10/G translates to $10/hour. This is a significant cost for a remote worker using video chat as a routine meeting venue.

1 Gigabyte per hour? Are you really chatting at 22 Mbit/s? That's like half Bluray quality.

Re: Project Fi by Google

#384
post #338

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is charging a significant markup over T-Mobile's existing rates ($30/month for 5Gb vs $70/month through Gooogle.) So Fi is really only interesting for people doing significant international roaming.

Where did you get your numbers? T-Mobile site says 1 GB of 4G data with unlimited talk and text for $50 a month. 5 gigs of 4G data is $70 http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone-plans/individual.html

I just got a T-mobile plan, the one you're referring to, an hour ago, and you are right, I paid $50 for the plan (plus $15 for the card).

Re: Project Fi by Google

#385
post #108

> Pay one rate for data around the world > > In 120+ countries, data usage costs the same $10 per GB > as it does in the US (data speed is limited to 256kbps/3G). > Check email, get directions, and keep in touch with friends > and family when on your trip. Also, call around the world > for 20c per minute and send unlimited international texts. This sounds incredible. Roaming cellular transmission costs are enormous.…

Is $10/GB and $0.2/min normal within the US? I'm not familiar with American (non-roaming) pricing. For comparison: In Germany I have an LTE data plan for my tablet where I pay €24.99 for 7.5GB (~$3.57/GB), the lowest plan being €6.99 for 1GB (~$7.50/GB). Unlimited calls in Germany including 1GB data would cost me €19.99/month (~$21.48) at the same provider and unlimited text in Germany would be an additional €4.99/mo…

Roaming is almost non-existent in the US now among the four major networks. Not sure if you mean domestic or international though.

I pay about $65 / month with AT&T, for unlimited talk & text, and 5gb of LTE data (10gb shared on a two person family plan). That includes the cost of the device.

Re: Project Fi by Google

#386
post #374
post #363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ahhh soooo annoying that it requires a Nexus 6. This sounds so awesome but I do not want a 6" phone. I'm hoping the next Nexus phone will have a smaller variant (and it will undoubtedly support Project Fi)

Agree. Edit: Looks like the Sony Z3C is a (and the only?) contender! --- But, I've also given up on that front. The last phone that was (barely) usable one-handed for me was the original Moto X. At this point, there is literally not a single phone on the market that (that I can find): * Runs a recent version of Android (or iOS) * Is * Has a recent/"fast" CPU/GPU So, fuck it, time to give in and go with a phablet.

...The iPhone 6 is 4.7" and has the best processor on the market.

Re: Project Fi by Google

#387
post #374
post #363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ahhh soooo annoying that it requires a Nexus 6. This sounds so awesome but I do not want a 6" phone. I'm hoping the next Nexus phone will have a smaller variant (and it will undoubtedly support Project Fi)

Agree. Edit: Looks like the Sony Z3C is a (and the only?) contender! --- But, I've also given up on that front. The last phone that was (barely) usable one-handed for me was the original Moto X. At this point, there is literally not a single phone on the market that (that I can find): * Runs a recent version of Android (or iOS) * Is * Has a recent/"fast" CPU/GPU So, fuck it, time to give in and go with a phablet.

A height of less than 5 inches limits you to the Motorola Droid Mini, Moto E or the recently released LG Joy. (Those 3 run Lollipop and are from 2013 and later.)

Increasing height to 5.1 inches (well, 130mm), gsmarena.com shows almost a dozen phones that suit your wishes.

(Personally, I'm still not happy about having to give up on having a hardware QWERTY keyboards on my phone :/ )

Re: Project Fi by Google

#389

For those who don't want to read the FAQ or find the video incredibly unhelpful [1]: a. It only supports the Nexus 6 out of the gate. b. It automatically switches you to the "fastest" network available. Partners out of the gate are Sprint and T-mobile. Sounds like it prefers Wifi, then 4G LTE, and then degrades down to 3G or 2G. c. Pricing is $20 for unlimited talk (domestic) and text (domestic and international) and…

[deleted]

Re: Project Fi by Google

#390

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Just say "Yes", Google. Just say fucking "Yes". It's not that fucking hard to say fucking "Yes". Do you really need a "yes" there? I think it is pretty normal to have a stupid PR response there -- of course the answer is "yes". There is no other way.

My point is that Google, of all companies, should be grown-up-enough to be able to resist the temptation to feed its users PR non-answers. Google's supposed to be bucking trends, "Do[ing] No Evil(TM)", etc.; they've set a higher standard and they're not meeting it.

At Microsoft (and I'm sure at Google), there was an internal "rude FAQ" that was full of these answers. I felt it a shame we couldn't just publish that, instead.
Post reply on HN