Introducing Hello • Hacker News Board

Re: Introducing Hello

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Post by micampe » Wed, Apr 22, 2015, 7:16 PM UTC

vmarsy wrote: post #20

taneem wrote: post #12

I think the biggest challenge to this is Facebook itself (and other messaging/social apps). How many millennials make phone calls frequently to more than 5-10 close people any more? Everyone just uses messaging or social apps to stay in touch. I don't need this to give me social context to my wife or my parents etc. calling me. The value of this is really to people that are not that close, where Facebook can surface…

I would see the use for getting quickly restaurants/businesses hours, my solution right now is to query " hours" in google and hope that google provides the small information box with the hours. However this Hello is on Android, if I had an android phone I could just ask OK Google and expect the information to come even faster.

If you have iOS you can use Spotlight for that: search a business name and get the same place info you get in Maps, it’s pretty convenient (I think it’s new in iOS 8).

Re: Introducing Hello

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Post by gcp » Wed, Apr 22, 2015, 7:18 PM UTC

shmerl wrote: post #22

Sounds too similar to Firefox Hello.

I was hoping to see extended WebRTC support in Facebook :(

Re: Introducing Hello

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Post by MBCook » Wed, Apr 22, 2015, 7:20 PM UTC

turbostyler wrote: post #30

I didn't switch to iPhone to have apps come out for Android first.

iOS doesn't allow you to do this kind of thing, only Apple has enough power to view incoming call data.

Re: Introducing Hello

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Post by devmach » Wed, Apr 22, 2015, 7:20 PM UTC

One thing is not clear: What happens if I want some people (friends of friends etc) find me on facebook but they or others don't see my information on their hello app when I called / miscalled them? Would there be an opt-out?

Re: Introducing Hello

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Post by maxk42 » Wed, Apr 22, 2015, 7:23 PM UTC

ori_b wrote: post #21

650REDHAIR wrote: post #2

I think this is the part where I delete Facebook. A step too far.

Nobody is forcing this on anyone. If you find it useful, install it. If you don't, then don't.

But if I don't install it then the people I call still get my information without my knowledge, don't they?

Re: Introducing Hello

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Post by bentcorner » Wed, Apr 22, 2015, 7:24 PM UTC

Jemaclus wrote: post #19

What I think is fascinating about this is how front-and-center the whole "block unwanted calls" feature is. They mention it several times on this one page, when they could mention a bunch of other features instead. It goes to show how concerned people are with potentially allowing frictionless contact from mere acquaintances.

I have never needed to block a call, so I'm not the customer here. I'm curious what demographic uses call blocking so much that FB wants to advertise directly to them. Is it a problem that younger people face, or something that happens in other countries?

Re: Introducing Hello

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Post by nabaraz » Wed, Apr 22, 2015, 7:25 PM UTC

So far we have:

- Facebook (networking)

- Messenger (messaging)

- Hello (calls and callerID)

Facebook should just fork Android, integrate all of these and release their own build.

Re: Introducing Hello

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Post by czardoz » Wed, Apr 22, 2015, 7:26 PM UTC

So does it make sense to assume that this is where the WhatsApp phone book data comes into play?

Re: Introducing Hello

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Post by bentcorner » Wed, Apr 22, 2015, 7:26 PM UTC

650REDHAIR wrote: post #24

pluma wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you previously paid any attention to the permissions the Facebook app asks for at all? I wanted to install Facebook on my Android device so I could share stuff on Facebook via the native "share" intent. Seeing the permission list made me reconsider.

When they broke messenger off into a different app I uninstalled. Right now I only use the mobile browser version and really only to upload photos of my daughter for my family to see. I'm starting to use it less and less though because the browser version is terrible.

If you're on Android, try using Tinfoil. It's the same browser version (so it may still be terrible for you), but interacting with it is a little easier than just opening Chrome/FF and going to fb.com.

Re: Introducing Hello

#40

Post by jmgao » Wed, Apr 22, 2015, 7:26 PM UTC

nabaraz wrote: post #37

So far we have: - Facebook (networking) - Messenger (messaging) - Hello (calls and callerID) Facebook should just fork Android, integrate all of these and release their own build.

They pretty much tried that, and it failed miserably.