So we are tracked by facebook if we are logged in and see the like button on a different page. Does this mean that other sites are doing the same, if we see a button for their sites, like twitter or p interest? Or is facebook the main perpetrator here?
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#12So we are tracked by facebook if we are logged in and see the like button on a different page. Does this mean that other sites are doing the same, if we see a button for their sites, like twitter or p interest? Or is facebook the main perpetrator here?
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#13For the Like button issue, there's Shariff, which provides a privacy friendly social button bar: https://github.com/heiseonline/shariff It only tracks when you actually use the button. (also mentioned in the comments of the original article, but IMHO worth spreading)
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#14>"Well, because that guy pointed out a bug without also blowing sunshine up my ass, I'm going to just leave our product buggy." Has this guy worked anywhere before? (Yes, it's a joke, I know who Zawinski is). I am sure there is a faction in Facebook who thinks their filter system needs an overhaul, and I'm sure this post will go on a big pile of "why" somewhere. However, if you're asking an engineer who works near (b…
If anything I think it helped that his rants were rude, since that made it clear how much he cared about the problems.
Startups are different though. What you wrote is probably a lot more true of a company the size of Facebook.
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#15>"Well, because that guy pointed out a bug without also blowing sunshine up my ass, I'm going to just leave our product buggy." Has this guy worked anywhere before? (Yes, it's a joke, I know who Zawinski is). I am sure there is a faction in Facebook who thinks their filter system needs an overhaul, and I'm sure this post will go on a big pile of "why" somewhere. However, if you're asking an engineer who works near (b…
A long time ago, jwz used to use Justin.tv for the DNA Lounge webcast, and I used to use his rants as evidence that someone out there cared about a given bug and we should prioritize fixing it. If anything I think it helped that his rants were rude, since that made it clear how much he cared about the problems. Startups are different though. What you wrote is probably a lot more true of a company the size of Facebook…
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#16I don't really get the pointed outrage. But this isn't hugely different than anything anybody else does. - Individual products like AdRoll and Perfect Audience let you track users and show them ads. Ever been to a site and had their ads pop up everywhere afterwards? Ever looked at a product then gotten ads for _just that product_? Yeah, that. - Google lets you track conversions based on a ton of information. What Goo…
The particularly pointed anti-FB sentiment stems from their selective policy enforcement, the privacy issues weren't specifically targeted.
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#19I don't really get the pointed outrage. But this isn't hugely different than anything anybody else does. - Individual products like AdRoll and Perfect Audience let you track users and show them ads. Ever been to a site and had their ads pop up everywhere afterwards? Ever looked at a product then gotten ads for _just that product_? Yeah, that. - Google lets you track conversions based on a ton of information. What Goo…
He specifically brought up Google Analytics. Did you just skim? The particularly pointed anti-FB sentiment stems from their selective policy enforcement, the privacy issues weren't specifically targeted.
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#20This new tool specifically offers a way to beat the "prison effect" of products that are subject to the network effect.