The sad state of sysadmin in the age of containers
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#2"Stack is the new term for "I have no idea what I'm actually using"." - this made my day!
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#4This bothers me as well. Even tasks as simple as adding a repository are now being "improved" with a curl | sudo bash style setup[1].
However, installing from source with make was (and remains) a mess. It may work if you're dedicated to maintaining one application and (part of) its stack. But even then it usually leads to out of date software and tracking versions by hand.
Many people have this weird aversion to doing basic sysadmin stuff with Linux. What makes it weird is that it's really simple. Often easier than figuring out another deploy system.
(The neckbeard in me blames the popularity of OSX on dev machines.)
[1] https://nodesource.com/blog/nodejs-v012-iojs-and-the-nodesou...
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#5Give me the command line and I'll build anything!
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#6There is some truth in this, yes. On the other hand, maven (mentioned by the author) clearly was very successful at abstracting from the tools we use. I can remember how much time I wasted with build scripts and dependency management and all that before. (And I still do on some other platforms.) The problems only arise if the abstraction is not working well enough. This might indeed be true for containers - there is maybe too much complexity in there that currently can't be properly encapsulated.
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#7So, asking the obvious question: what's the solution to that?
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#8haha you're my new hero
YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE MAN! trust the (maven) system
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#9If you read german I can recommend you https://plus.google.com/+KristianK%C3%B6hntopp/posts/gPpHx5T... and https://plus.google.com/+KristianK%C3%B6hntopp/posts/54v3MNX...
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#10"Maven, ivy and sbt are the go-to tools for having your system download unsigned binary data from the internet and run it on your computer."
You should setup a maven repository (Nexus, Artifactory) for your organisation if you want to have more control on binaries.
Seems that artifactory can host docker files: https://www.jfrog.com/confluence/display/RTF/Docker+Reposito...