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*successfully
why not both?
Run by economically literate despots
This man just claimed a new European nation. 160,000 people want to live there
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Re: This man just claimed a new European nation. 160,000 people want to live there
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Au contraire, I've been casually following "micro nations" for decades, and attempts are often long remembered. This one is notable as it involves actual viable land (in contrast with artificial or new/fluke natural dry surfaces), which the surrounding countries just plain don't want. It's not just a rock or platform with a flag on it.
>>> I've been casually following "micro nations" for decades, and attempts are often long remembered Could you share more? Are there any decent write ups about the more interesting attempts?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_micronations (Liberland is already listed)
Some are just notable crackpots, some take advantage of geographic changes or artificial structures (Sealand the most famous), some are whims tolerated by controlling sovereignties, some are violently overthrown, some are long-respected special cases (Vatican), some are genuine attempts that failed (Oceania).
Re: This man just claimed a new European nation. 160,000 people want to live there
#153This country is also on the verge of having its first war. The Liberland flag has already been removed by another micro-nation that claims to have laid claim on the land just over a month earlier: http://www.paraduin.nl/?p=173 Unfortunately, the Paraduin people seem a bit nutty to me. An excerpt from their constitution, which is in Dutch: "Paraduin is een monarchie. De titel van de monarch is prins(es), voluit Prins(…
Simply commenting to confirm the translation is (perhaps surprisingly) accurate.
Re: This man just claimed a new European nation. 160,000 people want to live there
#154This country is also on the verge of having its first war. The Liberland flag has already been removed by another micro-nation that claims to have laid claim on the land just over a month earlier: http://www.paraduin.nl/?p=173 Unfortunately, the Paraduin people seem a bit nutty to me. An excerpt from their constitution, which is in Dutch: "Paraduin is een monarchie. De titel van de monarch is prins(es), voluit Prins(…
Simply commenting to confirm the translation is (to me, surprisingly) accurate.
Re: This man just claimed a new European nation. 160,000 people want to live there
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If your countrymen hadn't killed 126.000 Russians, and maimed 180.000 more, you would now be governed by homophobic, corrupt and oppressive Vladimir Putin. I am not pro-war. I am not suggesting anyone should be attacked, but if you don't have the power to defend what you stand for, you will trampled by those who do. I am from the Netherlands. The only reason we exist is because the U.S. won the second world war, and…
This kind of thinking leads to war. What I'm saying is that if we really want to create peace, we should think about peace. Not attacking. It doesn't matter who is attacking. If somebody is doing it, then it leads to more of this action. Sorry for offending you, was not my cause. Just trying to see why somebody would think they should show force even though they are a new country and they have the possibility to act…
Thanks for responding. I wasn't offended, I actually upvoted you to counter-act the downvote storm a little. (It was your offensive prejudice against U.S. citizens that triggered your downvotes, any apology should be directed at them)
I believe that violence is not taught, or even human. I believe it is a fundamental aspect of nature, and only humans have the power to overcome it. A group of humans overcoming nature and violence is what I would call a civilization. Unfortunately any group of humans has only a limited influence, so civilizations have borders.
Outside the borders nature rages violently, attacking civilizations for the resources they dig, farm and build. To keep nature out we need to make some sort of sacrifice, be it resources, lives, or our own morality.
Our morality is what makes us human, so war should never be a solution. But our civilizations are also precious, so they have to be guarded. That's what I believe anyway.
Re: This man just claimed a new European nation. 160,000 people want to live there
#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
>>> I've been casually following "micro nations" for decades, and attempts are often long remembered Could you share more? Are there any decent write ups about the more interesting attempts?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_micronations (Liberland is already listed) Some are just notable crackpots, some take advantage of geographic changes or artificial structures (Sealand the most famous), some are whims tolerated by controlling sovereignties, some are violently overthrown, some are long-respected special cases (Vatican), some are genuine attempts that failed…
Thanks for sharing :)
I found these resources about Sealand http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/03/sealand-and-haven... and a much more detailed about the legal situation in Sealand (80 pages, PDF) https://web.archive.org/web/20130114064309/http://illinoisla...
Re: This man just claimed a new European nation. 160,000 people want to live there
#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. But only if you think anarchist == anarchy. In reality, anarchist == anarchism, which is a collectivist/socialist philosophy masquerading as anarchy. A state based on anarchy is an oxymoron.
there are several very different models of a anarchist society, some are based on collectivist/socialist others on capitalism/individualism.
Yeah, the Individualist Anarchists prefix Anarchist with "individualist". The Anarcho-capitalists add a suffix to it. Both groups understand that Anarchy ("No Authority") is being altered by their beliefs, and is therefore not a pure Anarchy.
Only the Collectivist/Socialist Anarchists have the audacity to call themselves "Anarchists" without any qualifying suffix or prefix. The fact that they've coined "Anarchism" (of which they are "Anarchists") to mean something that isn't a pure Anarchy is extraordinarily disingenuous.