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Why we don't sell ads – WhatsApp Blog

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Re: Why we don't sell ads – WhatsApp Blog

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Post by Psion7 »

scotu wrote: post #63
Justsignedup wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whatsapp is encrypted in transit. It is still stored on their servers. So they can read your messages. Edit: Link -- https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard

If it was stored on their server I would assume I would be able to get my old messages when I change phone but it didn't happen last time I did, plus they could have implemented web also for iOS without relying on your phone to show messages in the browser (through more permissive android functionality), no?

Well they don't need to store your whole message, once they have processed it and updated their profile database with whatever is of value to them they will most likely delete it. They should all happen within minutes if not seconds of you sending the message.

Re: Why we don't sell ads – WhatsApp Blog

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Post by fragmede »

motoboi wrote: post #67
Justsignedup wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whatsapp is encrypted in transit. It is still stored on their servers. So they can read your messages. Edit: Link -- https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard

They claim end-to-end encryption, which means they don't store it unencrypted. From a wired article about it: "Textsecure has actually already been quietly encrypting Whatsapp messages between Android devices for a week. The new encryption scheme means Whatsapp messages will now travel all the way to the recipients? device before being decrypted, rather than merely being encrypted between the user?s device and Whatsa…

That doesn't mean they (Whatsapp) don't have decryption keys either.

Re: Why we don't sell ads – WhatsApp Blog

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Post by tim333 »

joeyspn wrote: post #58
Psion7 wrote: post #38

WhatsApp isn't about putting ads into the app but for better data collection. That is why Facebook bought them. Facebook sells ads and targeting data and one of the best ways to analyse a persons life to better target them for ads is from their personal, non-public communication. You will talk about many more things in private conversation with friends and family than you will publicly on your Facebook profile. A sim…

That could explain why I've been getting oddly accurate (highly targeted) ads on FB related to the niche of a new app I'm developing. I haven't liked similar stuff on FB and I was wondering how in the world FB knows that info (I have talked about it extensively via whatsapp). So there are only 2 options: 1- They somewhat are able to read my browser history even when I have ABP with "Fanboy's Social Blocking List" and…

It is more likely that you visited a site with 'Facebook social integration' on it.

>"When a logged-in Facebook user visits a site with Facebook social plug-ins, Facebook receives the Facebook ID and browser ID, along with the URL of the page being visited,"

quote from a The Verge article:

http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/31/8319411/facebook-tracking-...

Re: Why we don't sell ads – WhatsApp Blog

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Post by spyder »

tim333 wrote: post #83
joeyspn wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That could explain why I've been getting oddly accurate (highly targeted) ads on FB related to the niche of a new app I'm developing. I haven't liked similar stuff on FB and I was wondering how in the world FB knows that info (I have talked about it extensively via whatsapp). So there are only 2 options: 1- They somewhat are able to read my browser history even when I have ABP with "Fanboy's Social Blocking List" and…

It is more likely that you visited a site with 'Facebook social integration' on it. >"When a logged-in Facebook user visits a site with Facebook social plug-ins, Facebook receives the Facebook ID and browser ID, along with the URL of the page being visited," quote from a The Verge article: http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/31/8319411/facebook-tracking-...

He said he is using ABP with "Fanboy's Social Blocking List" which is blocking these social plug-ins.

Re: Why we don't sell ads – WhatsApp Blog

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Post by gcb0 »

skrebbel wrote: post #16
gcb0 wrote: post #7

> creates app that leeches your contact list and spam people to o install the app in your name > post about hating advertising you can cut the irony/hypocrisy with a knife. what's next? a post about how he loves client interoperability? heh.

> spam people to o install the app in your name Any references for this? I've been using Whatsapp for years and never saw them do this. I've spammed people, in person mostly, to install it back when Whatsapp wasn't ubiquitous where I lived yet, but that's it. I assume that's not what you meant.

it shows (or used to, or maybe it's an entirely different app. i only check them out in a sandbox at time of launch) all your contacts as "offline" and when you messaged them it sent out a sms or something else they would get hold of from the contact list your just gladly provided them and it appeared as a message from you asking them to install it.

Re: Why we don't sell ads – WhatsApp Blog

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Post by aryamaan »

igvadaimon wrote: post #3
hundunpao wrote: post #2

>Have you considered the alternative? Yes and they are better. i'm using Hangouts, Telegram and Line... why should I use WhatsApp? These App all have more functionalities and are "free".

It's not "alternative to whatsapp", it's "alternative app monetization strategy".

what does that mean?
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