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Re: Wagtail

#11
> Free

> We use a BSD license.

I see in no way how a BSD License is free. I think the word Open-source is better suited here.

Maybe it's nitpicking. I wish English had more words that describe "free"-ness (gratis vs frei) etc.

EDIT: Okay a few words later they're also saying freedom. So I guess it's not nitpicking as I don't see how BSD gives you 'freedom'.

Re: Wagtail

#12

> Free > We use a BSD license. I see in no way how a BSD License is free. I think the word Open-source is better suited here. Maybe it's nitpicking. I wish English had more words that describe "free"-ness (gratis vs frei) etc. EDIT: Okay a few words later they're also saying freedom. So I guess it's not nitpicking as I don't see how BSD gives you 'freedom'.

> EDIT: Okay a few words later they're also saying freedom. So I guess it's not nitpicking as I don't see how BSD gives you 'freedom'.

Perhaps I'm really misunderstanding this but with a BSD license I thought I could:

* Take the code and use it for free

* Take the code and use it for free to make money

* Take the code and add to it and re-release it open-source (as long as I include the same license)

* Take the code and add to it and re-release it closed-source (as long as I include the same license)

Sounds like I've got quite a lot of freedom in what I do with it. The only things that I can't do (as far as I can tell) are:

* Redistribute the code without that license

* Say the the creators endorse my work without permission

Re: Wagtail

#13

> Free > We use a BSD license. I see in no way how a BSD License is free. I think the word Open-source is better suited here. Maybe it's nitpicking. I wish English had more words that describe "free"-ness (gratis vs frei) etc. EDIT: Okay a few words later they're also saying freedom. So I guess it's not nitpicking as I don't see how BSD gives you 'freedom'.

> I see in no way how a BSD License is free.

The FSF are quite happy to describe it as a free software licence https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#ModifiedBSD - not sure who else's definition you'd rather use...?

Re: Wagtail

#14

> Free > We use a BSD license. I see in no way how a BSD License is free. I think the word Open-source is better suited here. Maybe it's nitpicking. I wish English had more words that describe "free"-ness (gratis vs frei) etc. EDIT: Okay a few words later they're also saying freedom. So I guess it's not nitpicking as I don't see how BSD gives you 'freedom'.

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Re: Wagtail

#15

This is actually pretty neat. As someone who has worked on many wordpress sites for a long time, having faster everything would be amazing. The product looks very polished and I hope to see it grow and develop a large community. That would make it a real WP competitor since the main reason WP is so powerful now is because of all the themes, documentation, and plugins.

A very major reason on why Wordpress is so widely used, is how easy it is to install on just about anything above a toaster.

Meanwhile, this is how you install Wagtail: http://spapas.github.io/2014/02/13/wagtail-tutorial/

Re: Wagtail

#16
I have done R&D to find Django CMS and e-commerce like OpenCart and I spotted Wagtail but I felt it's still growing and didn't reach the level Wordpress. PHP web apps are mature than Django Apps and we need to support this.

Please give me guideline on who to contribute or even how to use it and I'll do my best to help.

Re: Wagtail

#17

> Free > We use a BSD license. I see in no way how a BSD License is free. I think the word Open-source is better suited here. Maybe it's nitpicking. I wish English had more words that describe "free"-ness (gratis vs frei) etc. EDIT: Okay a few words later they're also saying freedom. So I guess it's not nitpicking as I don't see how BSD gives you 'freedom'.

Free Software includes BSD, always has, and certainly does under the Free Software Definition.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

(This statement is void if the BSD license is old enough to contain the Obnoxious Advertising Clause. No BSD license variants do these days, primarily because it was Obnoxious.

More information:

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/bsd.html

http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/99/09/02/189210/berkeley-remov...

The Amazing Disappearing BSD License (or, A License Gets De-Clause-d):

https://urchin.earth.li/~twic/The_Amazing_Disappearing_BSD_L...

)

Re: Wagtail

#18

This is actually pretty neat. As someone who has worked on many wordpress sites for a long time, having faster everything would be amazing. The product looks very polished and I hope to see it grow and develop a large community. That would make it a real WP competitor since the main reason WP is so powerful now is because of all the themes, documentation, and plugins.

A very major reason on why Wordpress is so widely used, is how easy it is to install on just about anything above a toaster. Meanwhile, this is how you install Wagtail: http://spapas.github.io/2014/02/13/wagtail-tutorial/

That was a very helpful introduction in Wagtail's early days, but setup and installation has become much simpler since then. For Python developers it's as simple as

  pip install wagtail
  wagtail start mysite
Or you can deploy the demo to Heroku in one click:

https://heroku.com/deploy?template=https://github.com/torchb...

Re: Wagtail

#20

I have done R&D to find Django CMS and e-commerce like OpenCart and I spotted Wagtail but I felt it's still growing and didn't reach the level Wordpress. PHP web apps are mature than Django Apps and we need to support this. Please give me guideline on who to contribute or even how to use it and I'll do my best to help.

Contributing - there's a big list of Github issues you can help with:

https://github.com/torchbox/wagtail/issues

How to use it - the docs are pretty comprehensive:

http://docs.wagtail.io/en/v0.8.6/

Getting help - join the user group:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/wagtail

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