Does anyone know how the delivery system worked? I assume that there were people who received an email once the form was figured out and passed your info to the local pizza hut
I'd put money on there being a fax machine involved in this somewhere.
PizzaHut still serves its first homepage
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#102The Space Jam movie website is still up from 1996, and it still has working links. http://www2.warnerbros.com/spacejam/movie/jam.htm
From the "browser icons" page:
> Unfortunately, this only works on a Macintosh running Netscape
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'f that comment was sarcastic, I may have missed it... Does there have to be a better way? It's not a complex transaction and it seems like it's pretty much solved. Now they store your information for easier access.
Something like the Magic app[1] that was on HN a few weeks ago is a promising suggestion. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9087819
So you give that info to a 3rd party and thats it?
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#105I've missed NCSA Mosaic so much. What a flashback! But do you guys remember Trumpet Winsock?
Yeah, we're definitely old. I was working my first developer gig at a company that had a commercial TCP/IP stack for Win 3.1+. Trumpet came up all the time especially from customers that were trying to get a better deal.
Sort of a tangent but I still remember building a SOCKS client on top of Winsock using undocumented Windows APIs. It was great that you could simply ask Windows to alias your code segment register to look like a data segment register and then replace the first 5 bytes of function calls to jump where you wanted it to go. And DLLs were in the global space back then. So it changed it for every app using that DLL. Those were fun days.
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#106It's missing a form element. Clicking submit doesn't even send your name, street address or voice phone. They must have had to guess what kind of pizza you wanted and and where to send it by the ip address in the server logs. Funny how the Document Title and Document URL are in text fields at the top of the page. This is how you could visually design and order pizzas via email-to-fax in 1990: http://www.art.net/~hopk…
There is an actual form button, as opposed to a link image in the OP page, in the actual 1996 version (archive.org doesn't have the '95 version):
https://web.archive.org/web/19961219205128/http://www.pizzah...
The currently served "old" version was probably disabled to redirects to the modern ordering website so the antique non/functionality from ever interfering with the modern website and not lose sales by attempting to convert customers into the new funnel.
Re: PizzaHut still serves its first homepage
#107It's missing a form element. Clicking submit doesn't even send your name, street address or voice phone. They must have had to guess what kind of pizza you wanted and and where to send it by the ip address in the server logs. Funny how the Document Title and Document URL are in text fields at the top of the page. This is how you could visually design and order pizzas via email-to-fax in 1990: http://www.art.net/~hopk…
Wow, I looked at the screenshot and didnt think much of it, but when I looked at the source code I got sucked right in! Thats brilliant, I dont understand the language but the thinking and patterns of the software are visible and I found it easy enough to follow. One thing I was curious about was how that icon stored near the end of the file looks when rendered. Did you write this script? This is exactly the kind of…
Thanks -- I'm glad you appreciate it! I wrote it as a programming example for The NeWS Toolkit (TnT 2.0), which was an OPEN LOOK user interface toolkit written in Sun's NeWS, a multithreaded object oriented dialect of PostScript. NeWS was a network extensible window system developed by James Gosling, after he made Emacs and before he made Java.
Ben Stoltz came up with the idea for a "tatool" gui interface for ordering pizzas from Tony & Albas pizzaria down the road in Mountain View, which he implemented in XView using DevGUIde (Sun's GUI builder tool). It inspired me to write Pizzatool for TnT in PostScript by hand -- I remember staying up late at night writing snippets of PostScript code for each of the different pizza toppings!
My initial version would draw a preview of the pizza on the screen, and then fax the image over to the pizza parlor, which confused them a lot because they couldn't tell which ingredients I wanted by looking at the black and white halftone screen printed pizza picture. So the next version just printed text describing the ingredients and delivery instructions, which took a lot less time to fax and was a lot more readable than a halftone image.
There was a bit of a controversy internally at Sun about releasing and supporting the source code, which toolkit to use (there were a lot of politics surrounding that at the time), and unintentionally revealing Sun's secret multimedia pizza faxing strategy to the press. But I wrote a manual entry, disabled the email-to-fax feature, replaced it with a menacing pop-up notification that threatened to hold your pizza hostage until you payed your tab, and managed to ship it in Solaris/SVR4 as an OpenWindows/NeWS demo.
Andy Bechtolsheim used it as an example of Sun's multimedia strategy in a SunWorld interview, and Unix Toady wrote an article about it, so the fallout wasn't as bad as some people were afraid of.
http://www.donhopkins.com/home/archive/NeWS/pizzatool-mail.t...
The idea was to test out and demonstrate how to program many of the dynamic user interface widgets, menus, windows, and drag and drop techniques in TNT 2.0. For example, it forked off light weight threads to draw all your pizza toppings at once, and you could spin the pizza to "cook" it by rotating the pixels repeatedly, then drag and drop an image into the pizza to customize it! It could even interoperate with another demo called "RasterRap". Here's a video that demonstrates spinning pizzas and dragging and dropping images from RasterRap into PizzaTool, which I recorded at the Exploratorium years ago (PizzaTool demo starts at 21:40, and the white and red pizzatool icon is visible at 13:00 -- it looks like a pizza box):
http://donhopkins.com/home/movies/HyperLookDemo.mov
Demonstration of SimCity running under the HyperLook user interface development system, based on NeWS PostScript. Includes a demonstration of editing HyperLook graphics and user interfaces, the HyperLook Cellular Automata Machine, and the HyperLook Happy Tool. Also shows The NeWS Toolkit applications PizzaTool and RasterRap. HyperLook developed by Arthur van Hoff and Don Hopkins at the Turing Institute. SimCity ported to Unix and HyperLook by Don Hopkins. HyperLook Cellular Automata Machine, Happy Tool, The NeWS Toolkit, PizzaTool and Raster Rap developed by Don Hopkins. Demonstration, transcript and close captioning by Don Hopkins. Camera and interview by Abbe Don. Taped at the San Francisco Exploratorium.
Re: PizzaHut still serves its first homepage
#108The Space Jam movie website is still up from 1996, and it still has working links. http://www2.warnerbros.com/spacejam/movie/jam.htm
Wow, I knew this was there but hadn't opened the console before. Quite the throwback. ? ? ?! Neat. I'd never seen a tag either: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/ma...
damn, i am getting old.
for better or worse i'd say there was a whole year i made websites using nothing but the map tag.
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#109I wonder how we'll do this kind of thing 10 years from now? Web pages have got so complex, even simple blogs etc, that serving them without keeping the infrastructure running is going to get harder and harder...
By that time you'll simply include the whole infrastructure in a 'web'-served container, running in a 'sandbox' of sorts on your 'browser'. Quotes where terminology is an unsure fit with whatever you'll be using by that time.
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#110Ahhh... being the webmaster, brings back memories.
I do remember going to imdb in those days and making a screen shot to show my relatives over xmas break. Haven't seen it in about 10 years though.