How demand for oil will change by 2030
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How demand for oil will change by 2030
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Re: How demand for oil will change by 2030
#2No one is saying any cause. Just prediction. Doesn't rising number of cars, also include electric or other alternative energy?
Re: How demand for oil will change by 2030
#3No one is saying any cause. Just prediction. Doesn't rising number of cars, also include electric or other alternative energy?
Rising number of electric cars wouldn't be accounted here, since they don't use fossil fuels.
What the graphic is telling us is, no matter how big the effort is to switch to renewables+ev's, etc., the fast growth of emerging economies, less prone to become green as fast as, say, EU, will lead to a sustainable and even increasing use of fossil fuels.
The best scenario, in my opinion: fossil fuel prices skyrocketing + some political agreements to boost smart subsidies where there are needed, to make renewables cheaper than coal. As Google.org says, RE60% of EU budget goes to farmers subsidies. USA subsidizes also monocrops such as corn (leading to massive use of corn syrup, packaged food, boosting obesity.)
So less subsidies to lobbies and more to renewables. And more electric cars on the roads.
I've driven some cool EV's and I only say this: it's really fun. Waiting for the 4 new Renaults to come in 2011-2012 and, specially, a smaller-cheaper version of the Tesla Model S.
All that said, I don't own a car.
Re: How demand for oil will change by 2030
#4No one is saying any cause. Just prediction. Doesn't rising number of cars, also include electric or other alternative energy?
By the way, you can take a look at this video interview with an ex NASA guy who created an EV motorcycles company: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=939757
Re: How demand for oil will change by 2030
#5Please. We'll have hit peak oil long before then; there's no way that much oil will be produced in 2030.
Re: How demand for oil will change by 2030
#6No one is saying any cause. Just prediction. Doesn't rising number of cars, also include electric or other alternative energy?
Rising number of electric cars wouldn't be accounted here, since they don't use fossil fuels. What the graphic is telling us is, no matter how big the effort is to switch to renewables+ev's, etc., the fast growth of emerging economies, less prone to become green as fast as, say, EU, will lead to a sustainable and even increasing use of fossil fuels. The best scenario, in my opinion: fossil fuel prices skyrocketing +…
Electric cars don't use fossil fuels, eh? Hrm...how do you suppose they get the electricity into the batteries? Kittens running on treadmills?
Re: How demand for oil will change by 2030
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
Rising number of electric cars wouldn't be accounted here, since they don't use fossil fuels. What the graphic is telling us is, no matter how big the effort is to switch to renewables+ev's, etc., the fast growth of emerging economies, less prone to become green as fast as, say, EU, will lead to a sustainable and even increasing use of fossil fuels. The best scenario, in my opinion: fossil fuel prices skyrocketing +…
Electric cars don't use fossil fuels, eh? Hrm...how do you suppose they get the electricity into the batteries? Kittens running on treadmills?
They of course use fossil fuels if you are using fossil fuels to generate electricity.
Which is why I explain the rest. Read the RE<C and be cool.
Re: How demand for oil will change by 2030
#8Please. We'll have hit peak oil long before then; there's no way that much oil will be produced in 2030.
Peak oil is there. It depends on the data you are looking at, though. Sadly, new sources are being discovered. Several new ones in Latin America, not to say the dirty sources (the really dangerous ones.) Tar sands from Canada (dig in there and then come back to talk to me) and yes, Alaska.
Tar sands are a huge issue in this picture. Just in there, north of your border.
Re: How demand for oil will change by 2030
#9Please. We'll have hit peak oil long before then; there's no way that much oil will be produced in 2030.
Peak oil is there. It depends on the data you are looking at, though. Sadly, new sources are being discovered. Several new ones in Latin America, not to say the dirty sources (the really dangerous ones.) Tar sands from Canada (dig in there and then come back to talk to me) and yes, Alaska. Tar sands are a huge issue in this picture. Just in there, north of your border.
It looks like we've hit global peak, yes, but it's hard to be sure. I went with the phrasing "long before then" just to be on the safe side.
Sadly? We're in no position to be picky about where we get our energy. We currently have no viable alternatives to oil. Combine all the different renewable energy sources you want; they'll never fill the hole left by oil.
Re: How demand for oil will change by 2030
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Peak oil is there. It depends on the data you are looking at, though. Sadly, new sources are being discovered. Several new ones in Latin America, not to say the dirty sources (the really dangerous ones.) Tar sands from Canada (dig in there and then come back to talk to me) and yes, Alaska. Tar sands are a huge issue in this picture. Just in there, north of your border.
It looks like we've hit global peak, yes, but it's hard to be sure. I went with the phrasing "long before then" just to be on the safe side. Sadly? We're in no position to be picky about where we get our energy. We currently have no viable alternatives to oil. Combine all the different renewable energy sources you want; they'll never fill the hole left by oil.
I completely disagree with you. I don't think your explanation needs even a response. Oil needs to have alternatives this century. Oil is bad and doesn't make sense. It's burning "old animal matter" into what we breath, while in 6 hours we get as much energy from the sun as we do need for 1 year.
Anyway. Go burn some gasoline, my friend.