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#41

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Our civilization is doomed. Society will fall apart because Google decided to do 3d plots in their search engine.

Next thing you know, someone will be asking how to do it with JQuery. Not JS, JQuery

They can just Google the answer.

Re: x*sin(y)

#42
The search doesn't actually find pages with x * sin(y), though. Even on verbatim mode the best it does is x = sin(y).

Re: x*sin(y)

#43

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Chrome here, with the same issue.

I guess, we're flooding the maths-render servers.

Not sure exactly how it works but if you disconnect from the internet you can still change the x and y ranges and have it redraw so the render is client side.

Re: x*sin(y)

#44

Search in Google following for Batman: 2 sqrt(-abs(abs(x)-1)*abs(3-abs(x))/((abs(x)-1)*(3-abs(x))))(1+abs(abs(x)-3)/(abs(x)-3))sqrt(1-(x/7)^2)+(5+0.97(abs(x-.5)+abs(x+.5))-3(abs(x-.75)+abs(x+.75)))(1+abs(1-abs(x))/(1-abs(x))),-3sqrt(1-(x/7)^2)sqrt(abs(abs(x)-4)/(abs(x)-4)),abs(x/2)-0.0913722(x^2)-3+sqrt(1-(abs(abs(x)-2)-1)^2),(2.71052+(1.5-.5abs(x))-1.35526sqrt(4-(abs(x)-1)^2))sqrt(abs(abs(x)-1)/(abs(x)-1))+0.9 link…

It's not the plot we deserved but the plot we needed.

Re: x*sin(y)

#46

Search in Google following for Batman: 2 sqrt(-abs(abs(x)-1)*abs(3-abs(x))/((abs(x)-1)*(3-abs(x))))(1+abs(abs(x)-3)/(abs(x)-3))sqrt(1-(x/7)^2)+(5+0.97(abs(x-.5)+abs(x+.5))-3(abs(x-.75)+abs(x+.75)))(1+abs(1-abs(x))/(1-abs(x))),-3sqrt(1-(x/7)^2)sqrt(abs(abs(x)-4)/(abs(x)-4)),abs(x/2)-0.0913722(x^2)-3+sqrt(1-(abs(abs(x)-2)-1)^2),(2.71052+(1.5-.5abs(x))-1.35526sqrt(4-(abs(x)-1)^2))sqrt(abs(abs(x)-1)/(abs(x)-1))+0.9 link…

Now I challenge you to drop in the Eye of Sauron :)

Re: x*sin(y)

#48
post #21

While this is nice, I don't like the idea of one company being the one-stop-shop for all of our knowledge.

Assume that all information that exists at t = 0 shares more similarity with other information at t = 0, than information at t = other. Then all information that exists in the present observation has a uniform probability of being correct, without having to verify the correctness of the information.

Assume that information is deterministic - in that information has a limit of what it is capable of expressing given enough time.

Assume that information taken at t = 0 and information taken at t = n and t = -n shares similar degrees of complexity, transformation, simplification, mechanical operation. All information moves uniformly.

There are lots of things that already exist in culture that present themselves as fact or truth, when there really isn't any reason to have initialized yourself on agreement when you were first taught it, aside from cultural and societal pressure.

I don't like google, but what google is doing is no different than what anything else does when it creates, alters, and destroys information. The localization of the information doesn't matter, as the transformational functions applied to the information can be universal, random, and chaotic.

In simpler terms, someone at google may implement one way to think, which spreads virally across an entire population, but they may have learned that one way to think from something they learned isolated from civilization on top of a mountain. And they may change it tomorrow, because something seemingly trivial changed, like someone's tone of voice in an otherwise predictable meeting that occurs every Thursday at 2:15 pm. In retrospect, it's still ambiguous as to what has significance and what does not. Patterns are no different from chaos from an objective perspective.

Re: x*sin(y)

#49
post #21

While this is nice, I don't like the idea of one company being the one-stop-shop for all of our knowledge.

I don't see it that way. To me, this usage of sharing a math graph is just a Schelling Point.[1]

Twenty years ago, residents had these huge paper phone books. It had the yellow pages listing businesses (the pre-internet version of Yahoo! directory pages). It also had blue pages in the front with all kinds of information: time-of-day phone number, first aid instructions for choking or ingesting poison (along with phone# for poison control center). In Florida, it also had maps with emergency evacuation routes in case of a hurricane. When the phone books expired at the end of the year, they could be repurposed as cheap door stops or booster chairs to feed toddlers. The phone books were something universal that everybody had shared knowledge about. Maybe it seemed like the phone company had a monopoly on disseminating non-phone related information but those books were yesterday's Schelling Point. Society has moved away from them.

I think this method of sharing a url from google is another harmless Schelling Point but I can be convinced otherwise. Monetizing people's curiosity about "x sin(y)" doesn't seem to be much of a threat. Wikipedia and Youtube are other Schelling Points. If I'm curious about an obscure music track; I just go to youtube.com because I'm conditioned to think that somebody somewhere already uploaded it.

Not sure what people expect the alternative should be. Should users who want to share graphs alternate URLs between google.com and wolframalpha.com?[1]

To me, the real threat from Google Inc isn't the Shelling Point aspect but the mountains of behavioral data they collect on users from search + Android location data + Gmail that can be used against them. The data can be misused to discriminate employment to job seekers or deny health insurance for the sick. Google says they don't want to be evil but the temptation to monetize that valuable data seems impossible to resist.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focal_point_(game_theory)

[2] https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=x*sin%28y%29

Re: x*sin(y)

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Our civilization is doomed. Society will fall apart because Google decided to do 3d plots in their search engine.

Next thing you know, someone will be asking how to do it with JQuery. Not JS, JQuery

You mean WordPress? I want a WordPress with this. It must be responsive and SEO optimized.
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