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Re: Retina Macbook 2015 Teardown

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Post by smoyer »

colinramsay wrote: post #15
[deleted] wrote: post #12

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"Repairability" really means two things: 1) You can fiddle with the insides 2) You can fix it when it goes wrong Despite what you may read on places like HN and Reddit, no-one in the real world gives two hoots about #1, and if you make a product that has good reliability then #2 becomes moot.

I got my (mid-2012) rMBP about the same time as a friend got the equivalent MBP. I had to order mine with 16GB of RAM but he ordered his laptop with 8GB of RAM and installed a much cheaper 8GB to reach 16GB. There are a few things that it's nice to "fiddle with". Being able to swap out the SSD is another convenience.

Re: Retina Macbook 2015 Teardown

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Post by masklinn »

a_bonobo wrote: post #13

Worth noting that this device, typical for Apple, gets the worst "repairability" score: >The MacBook 2015 Repairability Score: 1 out of 10 (10 is easiest to repair) There are several reasons why this happens; the optimist says that to save space Apple had to glue and solder so much, the pessimist says it's so that Apple can charge more for repairs/replacements. But I think both can agree that this generates more e-wa…

> Worth noting that this device, typical for Apple, gets the worst "repairability" score:

Technically, iFixit has given an orange a repairability score of 0 (https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Orange+Teardown/13470) so apple products don't get the worst repairability score.

Re: Retina Macbook 2015 Teardown

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Post by collyw »

a_bonobo wrote: post #13

Worth noting that this device, typical for Apple, gets the worst "repairability" score: >The MacBook 2015 Repairability Score: 1 out of 10 (10 is easiest to repair) There are several reasons why this happens; the optimist says that to save space Apple had to glue and solder so much, the pessimist says it's so that Apple can charge more for repairs/replacements. But I think both can agree that this generates more e-wa…

The optimists might do well to remember the pentalobe screws on iPhones. Mainstream enough since then , but at the time?

Re: Retina Macbook 2015 Teardown

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Post by yitchelle »

a_bonobo wrote: post #13

Worth noting that this device, typical for Apple, gets the worst "repairability" score: >The MacBook 2015 Repairability Score: 1 out of 10 (10 is easiest to repair) There are several reasons why this happens; the optimist says that to save space Apple had to glue and solder so much, the pessimist says it's so that Apple can charge more for repairs/replacements. But I think both can agree that this generates more e-wa…

Just want to highlight Apple's recycling program as stated here [1]. They will give you a gift card for Apple computer.

If your equipment are not Apple, they will still pick it up for free via Sims Recycling Solutions. [2]

[1] - https://www.apple.com/recycling/ [2] - http://oem.srsapp.com/applepoweredbysims/

Re: Retina Macbook 2015 Teardown

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Post by abroncs »

colinramsay wrote: post #15
[deleted] wrote: post #12

[deleted]

"Repairability" really means two things: 1) You can fiddle with the insides 2) You can fix it when it goes wrong Despite what you may read on places like HN and Reddit, no-one in the real world gives two hoots about #1, and if you make a product that has good reliability then #2 becomes moot.

> no-one in the real world gives two hoots about #1

That's not true at all. I have plenty of non-technical people who chose to upgrade their laptops as time goes on, even if they don't do it manually themselves. Same goes for desktops.

Re: Retina Macbook 2015 Teardown

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Post by taspeotis »

masklinn wrote: post #22
a_bonobo wrote: post #13

Worth noting that this device, typical for Apple, gets the worst "repairability" score: >The MacBook 2015 Repairability Score: 1 out of 10 (10 is easiest to repair) There are several reasons why this happens; the optimist says that to save space Apple had to glue and solder so much, the pessimist says it's so that Apple can charge more for repairs/replacements. But I think both can agree that this generates more e-wa…

> Worth noting that this device, typical for Apple, gets the worst "repairability" score: Technically, iFixit has given an orange a repairability score of 0 ( https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Orange+Teardown/13470 ) so apple products don't get the worst repairability score.

> Technically, iFixit has given an orange a repairability score of 0

That's an O, not 0:

> Orange Repairability Score: O out of 10 (10 is easiest to repair).

Re: Retina Macbook 2015 Teardown

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Post by ghshephard »

a_bonobo wrote: post #13

Worth noting that this device, typical for Apple, gets the worst "repairability" score: >The MacBook 2015 Repairability Score: 1 out of 10 (10 is easiest to repair) There are several reasons why this happens; the optimist says that to save space Apple had to glue and solder so much, the pessimist says it's so that Apple can charge more for repairs/replacements. But I think both can agree that this generates more e-wa…

My understanding is that Apple is one of the leading companies when it comes to eWaste. Also, this is the one of the rare Apple product that that only has industry standard ports/power chargers on it.

You can't critique them on building a product that is hard to repair (and wow, this one looks next to impossible for your average non-technician) - but the ewaste/standard charger concerns don't appear to be valid.

Re: Retina Macbook 2015 Teardown

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Post by 0942v8653 »

taspeotis wrote: post #26
masklinn wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Worth noting that this device, typical for Apple, gets the worst "repairability" score: Technically, iFixit has given an orange a repairability score of 0 ( https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Orange+Teardown/13470 ) so apple products don't get the worst repairability score.

> Technically, iFixit has given an orange a repairability score of 0 That's an O, not 0: > Orange Repairability Score: O out of 10 (10 is easiest to repair).

It does register the lowest possible on the meter, though:

https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/o5IQuxSoKZvwqlbV

Re: Retina Macbook 2015 Teardown

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Post by masklinn »

taspeotis wrote: post #26
masklinn wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Worth noting that this device, typical for Apple, gets the worst "repairability" score: Technically, iFixit has given an orange a repairability score of 0 ( https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Orange+Teardown/13470 ) so apple products don't get the worst repairability score.

> Technically, iFixit has given an orange a repairability score of 0 That's an O, not 0: > Orange Repairability Score: O out of 10 (10 is easiest to repair).

> That's an O, not 0:

It's a 0 on the left-hand side of the meter, the meter is bottomed out whereas it's at the first mark for the 2015 macbook.

Re: Retina Macbook 2015 Teardown

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Post by audunw »

a_bonobo wrote: post #13

Worth noting that this device, typical for Apple, gets the worst "repairability" score: >The MacBook 2015 Repairability Score: 1 out of 10 (10 is easiest to repair) There are several reasons why this happens; the optimist says that to save space Apple had to glue and solder so much, the pessimist says it's so that Apple can charge more for repairs/replacements. But I think both can agree that this generates more e-wa…

Actually, if you think of the whole backplate as a part of the battery, isn't this battery quite easy to change?

You could simply sell batteries already glued to the cover, the rest is just screws and connectors. Might be a bit more expensive, but it shouldn't be too hard to do the replacement then.

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