California's Broken Jaywalking Law
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California's Broken Jaywalking Law
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Re: California's Broken Jaywalking Law
#2This is a bit like keeping speed limits down at 65 mph (a standard set when car technology was 50 years less mature).
It's another way that the state can selectively punish most any citizen at will, within the bounds of law.
Re: California's Broken Jaywalking Law
#3$190-250, sheesh - that fine amount is far to high. The maximum parking fine in LA, for parking on a red curb, only costs you $93.
Re: California's Broken Jaywalking Law
#4This is a bit like keeping speed limits down at 65 mph (a standard set when car technology was 50 years less mature). It's another way that the state can selectively punish most any citizen at will, within the bounds of law.
Yes, I agree. The flow of traffic for most commuters, like myself, seem to around 75 mph.
"The speed limit is commonly set at or below the 85th percentile operating speed (being the speed which no more than 15% of traffic is exceeding)[41][42][43] and in the US is typically set 8 to 12 mph (13 to 19 km/h) below that speed." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limit
Re: California's Broken Jaywalking Law
#5Otherwise, what’s the point of having a countdown signal?
It tells people currently on the crossing how long they have. If they're infirm, they may be better off waiting at a traffic island than trying to rush across. The red hand is pretty clear - it means "don't start crossing", not "start crossing if you're confident you can make it in time" (though that is the way the countdown is used).
$200 is a ridiculous fine, though - that's over 20 hours work at the minimum wage.
Re: California's Broken Jaywalking Law
#6$190-250, sheesh - that fine amount is far to high. The maximum parking fine in LA, for parking on a red curb, only costs you $93.
I recently got a $197 ticket for crossing a marked crosswalk in an uncontrolled intersection on foot.. In front of a cop car. There was no danger, but he accelerated at me in the intersection causing a "hazard". Nailed me for CVc 21950(b). It's a racket - they're scumbags. If I didn't work in tech, that could be a very difficult amount to deal with.
Re: California's Broken Jaywalking Law
#7This is a bit like keeping speed limits down at 65 mph (a standard set when car technology was 50 years less mature). It's another way that the state can selectively punish most any citizen at will, within the bounds of law.
Yes, I agree. The flow of traffic for most commuters, like myself, seem to around 75 mph. "The speed limit is commonly set at or below the 85th percentile operating speed (being the speed which no more than 15% of traffic is exceeding)[41][42][43] and in the US is typically set 8 to 12 mph (13 to 19 km/h) below that speed." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limit
On the other hand, if the speed limit was set at 75mph, would that remain the common speed of traffic, or would the common speed increase with the limit?
Re: California's Broken Jaywalking Law
#8Otherwise, what’s the point of having a countdown signal? It tells people currently on the crossing how long they have. If they're infirm, they may be better off waiting at a traffic island than trying to rush across. The red hand is pretty clear - it means "don't start crossing", not "start crossing if you're confident you can make it in time" (though that is the way the countdown is used). $200 is a ridiculous fine…
Agreed; this isn't at all ambiguous. If you were allowed to cross, it would be a walk signal with countdown.
Re: California's Broken Jaywalking Law
#9"broken" relative to who? seems like it works as designed to extract money from the people it was designed to extract money from, and give it to the people it was designed to give it to.
government is a complete sham, and you pussies can't and won't do anything about it, because you are pussies.
change only happens over dead bodies.
Re: California's Broken Jaywalking Law
#10I was in San Fransisco this past January, and I was actually stopped by an officer for crossing when the hand was blinking, even though I made it to the other side in time. I think it was a matter of the officer not having anything better to do, since it was 8 in the morning. I didn't get a ticket because I answered his questions politely, but I'm sure if I was still in high school, I would have been a smart-ass about it.