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Travel in the USA Requires ID
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#22>the only way to travel long distances anonymously is to use a horse.
Pretty sure that'll get your name in plenty of papers, so not so sure about the anonymous part...
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#23Comparing an ID with "travel papers" is silly. An ID is an identification device given to everyone who wants one. "Travel papers" are licenses to travel. IDs are a tiny restriction on your freedom. Travel papers are a major restriction on your freedom. The stupid airfare taxes are a much bigger restriction on our freedom, IMO.
Three words: No Fly List.
There is no transparency to that process, no way to find out if you're on it, no appeal, no recourse. That's tantamount to license to travel if not worse.
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#24Bikes are at least as practical as horses. And buses are at least as practical as that.
In TFA, the author says that bus passengers are subjected to random ID checks. It sounds like it's a statistical thing, not a 100% screen, but nonetheless if you are dead-set on not carrying/showing ID, it's going to be an issue.
The author is incorrect, they search, but they don't require ID.
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#25> We used to make fun of the Soviet Union for its lack of freedom of travel ("papers please"). You only need ID not pre-authorization. You don't have to get Idaho to authorize your vacation and Nebraska to allow you transit.
> You only need ID not pre-authorization.
To the extent the federal government requires valid state-issued ID for travel but neither mandates states to issue ID nor prohibits states from rescinding IDs that they have issued, you in effect do need pre-authorization, even if the actual pre-authorization regime is fairly light touch, granted by default for long terms without specific travel plans, and rarely revoked.
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#26> We used to make fun of the Soviet Union for its lack of freedom of travel ("papers please"). You only need ID not pre-authorization. You don't have to get Idaho to authorize your vacation and Nebraska to allow you transit.
And the US is actually pretty good about not requiring you to always have Federal ID on you, compared to European countries.
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#29Bikes are at least as practical as horses. And buses are at least as practical as that.
In TFA, the author says that bus passengers are subjected to random ID checks. It sounds like it's a statistical thing, not a 100% screen, but nonetheless if you are dead-set on not carrying/showing ID, it's going to be an issue.
They are not subject to random ID checks. You are however, subject to random fare inspection.
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#30Comparing an ID with "travel papers" is silly. An ID is an identification device given to everyone who wants one. "Travel papers" are licenses to travel. IDs are a tiny restriction on your freedom. Travel papers are a major restriction on your freedom. The stupid airfare taxes are a much bigger restriction on our freedom, IMO.
Three words: No Fly List. There is no transparency to that process, no way to find out if you're on it, no appeal, no recourse. That's tantamount to license to travel if not worse.
There is an appeal process, and just recently you are now generally notified if you are on it.
http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2015/04/14/us-t...
That doesn't mean it is perfect (far from it), but things have gotten (slowly) better.