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Yes, and even more so with https://envoyer.io/ - according to the website a Laravel product.
How is this different from Laravel Forge? https://forge.laravel.com/
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Drupal 8 is based on Symfony -- things are really moving in the right direction. Personally, I was a huge fan of Zend Framework + Doctrine, but these frameworks are all mature and great to use.... almost as good as Rails (lol, OK, OK, don't mention Ruby within earshot of PHP fans ;) [edit] down voted for my opinion! Argh my tiny karma is depleted -- damn you ruby, damn you to hell!
Drupal is becoming more and more insane with each release (especially 6 -> 7). The database structure is really getting out of hand. It's becoming harder and harder to deal with the performance issues.
But developing a drupal site is painful. Clearing the cache every few minutes takes forever.
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I've done some projects with Silex and it's not bad but I've found myself losing quit a bit of time because you can never really use most components exactly like in the Symfony standard distribution but the docs mostly show you that way. Also you have to be careful with dependencies version or you're quickly in Composer hell (because Symfony moves forward so fast). Always wanted to compare it with Slim but didn't tak…
>you can never really use most components exactly like in the Symfony standard distribution I'm glad its not just me. The documentation gave me problems. I started wondering why I didn't just use symfony in the first place.
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How many lines of code should a micro framework have?
It should be near other PHP micro-frameworks: - BulletPHP: 3946 lines of PHP code - Slim: 7329 lines of PHP code - limonade: 3669 lines of PHP code - Lumen: 95'220 lines of PHP code You can't call it a micro framework if it's more than ten times bigger than all the other ones.
The term "mirco" refers to the amount of functionality the framework exposes. Often a micro framework is just a router decorated with some other useful stuff. Who cares about lines code, especially when you count "all" dependencies in vendor.
glad to see use of symfony/http-kernel and symfony/http-foundation .