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Re: The Dark side of .io TLD

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Sure, but there's still some good .io domains available exactly because they aren't cheap (right?).

I pay <40 USD / year for taco.io, I have no idea of how much million dollars (which obviously I can't afford) would taco.com be worth.

Off-topic - that game is impossible.

Re: The Dark side of .io TLD

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The site pointing out the dark side of .io is ironically on .io TLD.

No, it's not ironic at all. It's not asking people to stop using .io. It's asking people using .io to support a fund that supposedly helps the cause of natives of the island.

Did you read the link?

Re: The Dark side of .io TLD

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The archipelago was first settled in the 19th century, only about 1500 people were displaced, yes the British government mistreated these people by not properly compensating them because the US and NATO needed a military base in the region. However there are urban restructuring projects every day in western countries that displace more people without proper compensation than this incident. And while i understand that…

How old is the USA again? When was (say) Utah settled by Americans? Can we have that?

like all things in realpolitik, you can certainly try!

Re: The Dark side of .io TLD

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The site pointing out the dark side of .io is ironically on .io TLD.

No, it's not ironic at all. It's not asking people to stop using .io. It's asking people using .io to support a fund that supposedly helps the cause of natives of the island. Did you read the link?

Yup I've read.

By using .io TLD, they are submitting to the UK government on what should be theirs. It may be like rebels claiming a territorial independence but then still pay taxes to the government for that particular territory.

Re: The Dark side of .io TLD

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> However there are urban restructuring projects every day in western countries that displace more people without proper compensation Such as? Most western legal systems require compensation in such cases… at least in theory.

I do not believe that anything can compensate for loss of one's home. I do not know what's going on in the Occident but here in Istanbul on every flipping square metre they build a glass tower where they stuff people, and everyday neighbourhoods are killed and the city is resembling more and more those stock videos of Chinese urban areas. This cannot be compensated anyhow, regardless of where-ever it happens. /rant

Would $1 billion in cash per household compensate? I believe for most people, the answer is "Yes, of course!" Is $1 enough? Of course not.

To me, that means the "right price" is somewhere in that bounded range and makes eminent domain conflicts amenable to financial analysis.

Re: The Dark side of .io TLD

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You're a nation if you have a military. These folks clearly failed that test.

By that line of reasoning, I should be legally allowed to invade my unarmed neighbor's house, kick him out and claim it for myself.

Your unarmed neighbor's house happens to be on the land of an existing nation, so you would have to deal with their military before claiming rights to said house.

Re: The Dark side of .io TLD

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> but I'm more concerned with the moral implication that if we can find a wrong Y that is worse than wrong X, we shouldn't care about X. Definitely not "shouldn't care". But you should ask yourself "if there's a ton of materially similar things I'm ok with, why should I feel outraged about this one in particular?" Sometimes the answer is that you shouldn't feel outraged at all, other times the answer will be that you…

Utilitarian arguments lead you strange places. You can end up eating children or burning hobos for fuel. Be very careful.

All arguments can lean you strange places. They're inconsequential if they don't.

Luckily, the modern pragmatist is also socially aware.

Re: The Dark side of .io TLD

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I think the key is in who gets to define what is "proper" compensation.

If the price were enough, they would sell it. While I understand that this logic is not helpful when we try to develop the nation's infrastructure, we must not forget that we're imposing the desires of a more important mass of people at the depends of a tiny number of victims.

Plus there's the fact that in at least some US cases, the displacement is to allow space for a large business which will provide more tax revenue than the displaced could.

Re: The Dark side of .io TLD

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Or for using it with words ended with "io" (like scenar.io, portfol.io and such)

Does this work well? A friend did that for his company and it was a real pain to explain that the last two letters of a full word have a dot first. Ended up getting the .com. I've got ci.al (so.ci.al, fa.ci.al, etc), I think, but trying to tell someone that over voice seems... problematic.

Usually startups using this kind of domain end up moving to .com once they get funded. I do data mining for a VC, and see this all the time.

Re: The Dark side of .io TLD

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The archipelago was first settled in the 19th century, only about 1500 people were displaced, yes the British government mistreated these people by not properly compensating them because the US and NATO needed a military base in the region. However there are urban restructuring projects every day in western countries that displace more people without proper compensation than this incident. And while i understand that…

That was pretty weak arguments against the case of the Chagossians people. I had to try really hard not to downvote because I disagree with your position. It doesn't matter if western countries mistreat their people sometimes, that doesn't justify mistreating the Chagossians or anyone else for that matter. Even if you think 200 years isn't a strong claim to a nation, that doesn't change the fact those people lived th…

I would say more than 1500 people forcibly relocated to the Island in the first place to work in the plantation and stayed there for hardly a century.

While there are plenty of arguments on what actually defines a nation from both historic cultural perspectives this one is a far stretch for any acceptable "litmus" test for a nation, even if it's simple because they never had the political legitimacy to being a nation state, not to mention ever had the capabilities of forming one.

Where they've mistreated? yes, do they deserve a compensation? yes, are they a nation? well not really if we are frank about it.

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