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NGINX Open Source: Reflecting Back and Looking Ahead

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Re: NGINX Open Source: Reflecting Back and Looking Ahead

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Post by MichaelGG »

Nginx Plus seems like they took a lot of the obvious feature upgrades, some which look fairly easy (remove cached item) and put them in a pay wall. Nothing wrong with that, just feels weird. And the pricing is enough to pay for a Windows license, not that IIS is even close to nginx (it's reverse proxy capability is terrible).

I'm sad to hear about JS; I thought the work with Lua was going well and would be a better candidate. Maybe I misunderstand the situation.

Nginx is one of those great tech that just makes so much more easy in my life.

Re: NGINX Open Source: Reflecting Back and Looking Ahead

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Post by xfalcox »

MichaelGG wrote: post #2

Nginx Plus seems like they took a lot of the obvious feature upgrades, some which look fairly easy (remove cached item) and put them in a pay wall. Nothing wrong with that, just feels weird. And the pricing is enough to pay for a Windows license, not that IIS is even close to nginx (it's reverse proxy capability is terrible). I'm sad to hear about JS; I thought the work with Lua was going well and would be a better c…

> I thought the work with Lua was going well

The lua support is GREAT, and make a lot of complex stuff (standard outside authentication on multiple apps) simple as using a 20 lines lua script.

Let's hope LUA doesn't fall to second class citizen.

Re: NGINX Open Source: Reflecting Back and Looking Ahead

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Post by astrodust »

MichaelGG wrote: post #2

Nginx Plus seems like they took a lot of the obvious feature upgrades, some which look fairly easy (remove cached item) and put them in a pay wall. Nothing wrong with that, just feels weird. And the pricing is enough to pay for a Windows license, not that IIS is even close to nginx (it's reverse proxy capability is terrible). I'm sad to hear about JS; I thought the work with Lua was going well and would be a better c…

Lua is a great scripting language in its own right, but the trouble is it's not JavaScript which at this time has an extraordinary amount of momentum behind it.

You can use JavaScript inside Postgres, for example, which makes it extremely versatile as a glue language for back-end services.

Lua has nowhere near the traction or support. Is there a C++ to Lua compiler that produces performant code when using an asm.js-like layer? Is Lua Rocks anywhere near the breadth and depth of NPM?

I don't know a single Lua programmer, but I can't throw a rock without hitting someone who knows JavaScript. It's something you'll pick up eventually even if you don't want to.

Re: NGINX Open Source: Reflecting Back and Looking Ahead

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Post by pygy_ »

astrodust wrote: post #4
MichaelGG wrote: post #2

Nginx Plus seems like they took a lot of the obvious feature upgrades, some which look fairly easy (remove cached item) and put them in a pay wall. Nothing wrong with that, just feels weird. And the pricing is enough to pay for a Windows license, not that IIS is even close to nginx (it's reverse proxy capability is terrible). I'm sad to hear about JS; I thought the work with Lua was going well and would be a better c…

Lua is a great scripting language in its own right, but the trouble is it's not JavaScript which at this time has an extraordinary amount of momentum behind it. You can use JavaScript inside Postgres, for example, which makes it extremely versatile as a glue language for back-end services. Lua has nowhere near the traction or support. Is there a C++ to Lua compiler that produces performant code when using an asm.js-l…

JS is definitely more popular, but you can run Lua inside PosgreSQL as well, and I fail to see the point of asm.js on the server.

You can pick up Lua in a day if you can already program, by reading Roberto Ierusalimschi's Programming in Lua.

Re: NGINX Open Source: Reflecting Back and Looking Ahead

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Post by myared »

I've been digging the last few months of blog posts that nginx has been putting out, especially the articles around microservices. They're very well written and have inspired our company to think differently about a few of our applications. When we were offered the opportunity to talk with nginx directly for a private webinar, we were left with a very underwhelming feeling. It may have been the specific sales person, but they couldn't explain how nginx's paid services could help our company.

Re: NGINX Open Source: Reflecting Back and Looking Ahead

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Post by fweespeech »

astrodust wrote: post #4
MichaelGG wrote: post #2

Nginx Plus seems like they took a lot of the obvious feature upgrades, some which look fairly easy (remove cached item) and put them in a pay wall. Nothing wrong with that, just feels weird. And the pricing is enough to pay for a Windows license, not that IIS is even close to nginx (it's reverse proxy capability is terrible). I'm sad to hear about JS; I thought the work with Lua was going well and would be a better c…

Lua is a great scripting language in its own right, but the trouble is it's not JavaScript which at this time has an extraordinary amount of momentum behind it. You can use JavaScript inside Postgres, for example, which makes it extremely versatile as a glue language for back-end services. Lua has nowhere near the traction or support. Is there a C++ to Lua compiler that produces performant code when using an asm.js-l…

Many applications (e.g. Redis) are designed to work with Lua scripts out of the box. If you label yourself a "javascript" or "lua" programmer, that is a bigger problem imo than which scripting language you need to use.
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