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Re: Apple ResearchKit on GitHub

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Post by criley2 »

baldfat wrote: post #5
xasos wrote: post #2

Here's a link to the current project's source if anyone is interested: https://github.com/researchkit Love that Apple is going open-source, and hopefully they do this for more of their code (pssssttt...Swift)

EDIT (To Clarify) Warning I am Strongly Anti-Apple Bias: Apple has a fairly decent Open Source history. http://www.opensource.apple.com There is things to complain about but there are more I am concerned with in regards to Open Source (Oracle). EDIT: I don't like Apple's products or the way the conduct business BUT I think they have done more good for Open Source than bad.

"Apple has a fairly decent Open Source history."

To me, this is like calling someone who occasionally eats a vegan diet a "Fairly decent Vegan". No, if you eat meat or cheese on a regular basis you're a terrible Vegan!

Just because Apple releases the source code as read-only doesn't really make them fairly decent with open source.

To me, if you're not willing to pull commits from outside your walled garden or allow external forks of your technologies, then you're terrible at open source. Sure, you technically checked off the very first checkbox ("make source available") but you stopped there. That's not a success, that's a stillborn effort...

Heck, when I look at the wikipedia entry for Open Source, the first line is: "In production and development, open source as a development model promotes a universal access via a free license to a product's design or blueprint, and universal redistribution of that design or blueprint, including subsequent improvements to it by anyone." Which I don't think Apple is really engaging with any of the OSS spirit on any level.

I mean is that what open source is now? As long as the source code is technically viewable, it's "open source software" now?

Re: Apple ResearchKit on GitHub

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Post by pm »

yellowapple wrote: post #28
suyash wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can sense some Strong Anti-Oracle Bias here. Oracle is one of the major contributor to open source, see the lineup here, chances are you're using some of them: https://oss.oracle.com/ starts with Java

Hahahahahahahahaha. Fucking no. Effectively all of Oracle's "open source" things come from Sun Microsystems, upon which Oracle happily latched onto and sucked dry. Oracle has what's called the "sidaM Touch". It's like the Midas Touch, but instead of gold, everything Oracle touches turns to shit: Java -> shit (though maybe slightly less so now). Solaris -> shit. OpenSolaris -> shit, now dead (thank the Lord for illumo…

I call the opposite of the Midas touch the Romero touch myself.

Re: Apple ResearchKit on GitHub

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Post by duskwuff »

feld wrote: post #23
suyash wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is a different topic altogether. I'm referring to Open JDK. Ever heard of the fasted embedded database engine called Berkeley DB. Doesn't matter came from where, Sun or what ever is still being developed and contributed in the open source environment.

I hope you're joking. BerkleyDB is a mess. From Wikipedia: ----- Oracle Corporation makes versions 2.0 and higher of Berkeley DB available under a dual license.[15] The sleepycat license license is a 2-clause BSD license with an additional copyleft clause similar to the GNU GPL version 2's Section 3, requiring source code of an application using Berkeley DB to be made available for a nominal fee. As of Berkeley DB re…

That's the AGPL, mind you. One of the most ridiculous and restrictive "open-source" licenses created; it's not really intended to be applied to libraries, and is incompatible with every other license in existence, including even the standard GPL. Applying it to a library makes the open-source version effectively unusable.

https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.html

Re: Apple ResearchKit on GitHub

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Post by suyash »

pjmlp wrote: post #46
baldfat wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually another post on Sun wouldn't have sued. Sun's CEO Jonathan Schwartz testified on behave of Google. He even blogged a congratulations to Google for releasing Android running Java. http://web.archive.org/web/20101023072550/http://blogs.sun.c... http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/26/2977858/former-sun-ceo-jon...

If you have bothered to read what Gosling had to say about it: "Google totally slimed Sun. We were all really disturbed, even Jonathan: he just decided to put on a happy face and tried to turn lemons into lemonade, which annoyed a lot of folks at Sun."

+ I trust Gosling's word over anyone else Sun CEO or folks here talking on HN.

Re: Apple ResearchKit on GitHub

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Post by billyhoffman »

TheSoftwareGuy wrote: post #57

GitHub says its 99.7% Objective-C, why didn't they use swift?

Swift was released to the public 7 months ago. The vast majority of Apple's own employee's didn't know it existed until it was publicly announced.

Research Kit was announced 6 months after Swift. Seems like a bit of a stretch...

Re: Apple ResearchKit on GitHub

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Post by rimantas »

yellowapple wrote: post #28
suyash wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can sense some Strong Anti-Oracle Bias here. Oracle is one of the major contributor to open source, see the lineup here, chances are you're using some of them: https://oss.oracle.com/ starts with Java

Hahahahahahahahaha. Fucking no. Effectively all of Oracle's "open source" things come from Sun Microsystems, upon which Oracle happily latched onto and sucked dry. Oracle has what's called the "sidaM Touch". It's like the Midas Touch, but instead of gold, everything Oracle touches turns to shit: Java -> shit (though maybe slightly less so now). Solaris -> shit. OpenSolaris -> shit, now dead (thank the Lord for illumo…

However, even before MySQL was acquired by Sun the most serious engine—InnoDB which got bought by Oracle in 2005 but still kept open source.

Re: Apple ResearchKit on GitHub

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Post by TheSoftwareGuy »

billyhoffman wrote: post #58
TheSoftwareGuy wrote: post #57

GitHub says its 99.7% Objective-C, why didn't they use swift?

Swift was released to the public 7 months ago. The vast majority of Apple's own employee's didn't know it existed until it was publicly announced. Research Kit was announced 6 months after Swift. Seems like a bit of a stretch...

Makes sense.
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