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Re: Show HN: Free, instant, secure, disposable chat rooms built in Go

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Post by knadh »

panamafrank wrote: post #26

first off... this is great! I wonder if you could make it so when you create a room, you can attach a message. So for instance i could generate a password then sign it with my partners public key then paste that in the message box so theoretically only they could get access to the channel. and and, create rooms that are meant for someone, so their public key is the index and their private key decrypts the message to…

Thanks :)

Public key encryption is definitely a good idea and could be an optional feature for an upcoming version.

Re: Show HN: Free, instant, secure, disposable chat rooms built in Go

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Post by gnoupi »

knadh wrote: post #23
untilHellbanned wrote: post #19

This is an awesome service. Thanks for making it available to everyone. Can I ask what the use case is for this? I talk to my friends using FB messenger or Google chat and my customers using a chat widget on our site, so I'm curious when I would use this.

Thanks! Use cases could be, quick private convo. at a workplace, taking a discussion on a public forum private (like HN or Reddit), talking to strangers (eg: Craigslist) without adding them to your FB or Google Talk, exchanging secrets with your friends without leaving logs on your Google talk etc. :)

The problem with taking a discussion from a public forum private, is that in the current state, everyone can choose to dispose of the room.

As proven in this very thread, it doesn't really work. The idea that everyone can dispose of the room is interesting, but there probably should be an option so that only the creator (or the first to join) can dispose of the room, for such public place cases.

Re: Show HN: Free, instant, secure, disposable chat rooms built in Go

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Post by knadh »

gnoupi wrote: post #33
knadh wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! Use cases could be, quick private convo. at a workplace, taking a discussion on a public forum private (like HN or Reddit), talking to strangers (eg: Craigslist) without adding them to your FB or Google Talk, exchanging secrets with your friends without leaving logs on your Google talk etc. :)

The problem with taking a discussion from a public forum private, is that in the current state, everyone can choose to dispose of the room. As proven in this very thread, it doesn't really work. The idea that everyone can dispose of the room is interesting, but there probably should be an option so that only the creator (or the first to join) can dispose of the room, for such public place cases.

It's actually meant for small group of people to have private conversations and is not really ideal for take a huge public discussion private. The idea of marking a peer the creator or making the first peer an owner complicates the whole privacy and security aspect.

Re: Show HN: Free, instant, secure, disposable chat rooms built in Go

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Post by icebraining »

eliaskg wrote: post #27
attilak wrote: post #18

Nice idea, sadly only as secure as https.

As all clients need a password to enter a room, the messages could be encrypted with that password. There are a lot of JS libraries that could do this, e.g. Triplesec

http://matasano.com/articles/javascript-cryptography/

Re: Show HN: Free, instant, secure, disposable chat rooms built in Go

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Post by lclarkmichalek »

knadh wrote: post #29
eliaskg wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As all clients need a password to enter a room, the messages could be encrypted with that password. There are a lot of JS libraries that could do this, e.g. Triplesec

Author here. Right now, it's only as secure as https, but I'll look into JS encryption. It's just a fun project that came out of some Go experiments.

Still would only be as secure as https if the client is downloading your JS crypto lib every visit.

Re: Show HN: Free, instant, secure, disposable chat rooms built in Go

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Post by rurounijones »

gnoupi wrote: post #17
hurin wrote: post #15

And this is secured how exactly?

Password-protected and no public listing, I assume. Nothing on secure data transfer, though.

> All communication happens over SSL. Niltalk doesn't record or log IP addresses, messages, or peer handles anywhere.

Re: Show HN: Free, instant, secure, disposable chat rooms built in Go

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Post by jobigoud »

pierrec wrote: post #21
knadh wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Author here. Yes of course - https://github.com/goniltalk/niltalk PS: The "source" link is in the footer of the website as well.

Wait, you're the author but someone else submitted it as "Show HN"? That's... not how it's supposed to work, but hey, at least you're in the thread. Here's another room (pass is dontclickdispose): https://niltalk.com/r/8L5MD

And it's gone.

Last messages were about how the Dispose button is conspicuous and easy to press by mistake.

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