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SpaceX CRS-6 Launch Webcast

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Re: SpaceX CRS-6 Launch Webcast

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"Hold. Hold. Hold. Weather is no go" @ 4:31pm EST

How come that on t minus 3min there is a weather no go? Anyone knows how this works...

The launch is a no-go because an anvil cloud (thunderstorm) entered the 10 mile radius around the launch site. Prior to the scrub there were a few comments about a cloud being close to the exclusion zone but not yet in it.

Re: SpaceX CRS-6 Launch Webcast

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post #16

"Hold. Hold. Hold. Weather is no go" @ 4:31pm EST

> Launch postponed due to lightning from an approaching anvil cloud (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/587715056432889856)

Anyone know how they detect lightnings? Is it just cameras, or do they have planes flying around?

Re: SpaceX CRS-6 Launch Webcast

#43
post #39
post #16

"Hold. Hold. Hold. Weather is no go" @ 4:31pm EST

How come that on t minus 3min there is a weather no go? Anyone knows how this works...

Here's more info about the Anvil Rule for launches and why it causes a NO-GO: http://weather.about.com/od/thunderstormsandlightning/f/anvi...

Re: SpaceX CRS-6 Launch Webcast

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A forecast doesn't stop a popup thunderstorm from entering the no-go zone.

Of course not. But it would help SpaceX plan and prepare much more in advance than 3 minutes. There is certainly a cost associated with getting everything set up, and then postponing the launch. Could they have planned for this earlier and not got everything ready?

> Could they have planned for this earlier and not got everything ready?

Probably not. They were a go up until just three minutes before launch. I doubt any extant or near-future forecasting system is able to tell you that a specific storm cell will be in a specific spot at an exact minute all that far in advance.

Re: SpaceX CRS-6 Launch Webcast

#46
post #39
post #16

"Hold. Hold. Hold. Weather is no go" @ 4:31pm EST

How come that on t minus 3min there is a weather no go? Anyone knows how this works...

But they where waiting for the last minute for weather to clear, or was it that just then the no-go condition generated?

Re: SpaceX CRS-6 Launch Webcast

#47
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course not. But it would help SpaceX plan and prepare much more in advance than 3 minutes. There is certainly a cost associated with getting everything set up, and then postponing the launch. Could they have planned for this earlier and not got everything ready?

> Could they have planned for this earlier and not got everything ready? Probably not. They were a go up until just three minutes before launch. I doubt any extant or near-future forecasting system is able to tell you that a specific storm cell will be in a specific spot at an exact minute all that far in advance.

> I doubt any extant or near-future forecasting system is able to tell you that a specific storm cell will be in a specific spot at an exact minute all that far in advance.

Well, this is exactly my plan, and I'm going to do it ASAP. Prototype should be done by summer. There are millions of little weather stations all over Florida that nobody is using (smartphones). By connecting those stations together and pulling the live sensor data into forecasts, I do in fact believe that these small thunderstorm cells should be very well-forecasted if we take in this dense dataset.

This forecast system doesn't exist yet, you're right. But it should exist in the next couple months/years, and when it does, it should be able to provide this kind of forecast.

BUT only if that is worth money to a group like SpaceX - is it? That's really my question. I know I can build the technology, but will anyone like SpaceX buy, and at what price?

Re: SpaceX CRS-6 Launch Webcast

#48
post #16

"Hold. Hold. Hold. Weather is no go" @ 4:31pm EST

> Launch postponed due to lightning from an approaching anvil cloud ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/587715056432889856 ) Anyone know how they detect lightnings? Is it just cameras, or do they have planes flying around?

You can detect lightening using ground based detectors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convective_storm_detection#Ligh...

This specific delay though was caused by convective clouds being too close to the launch. This was probably determined with either ground based radar, or visible/IR images from satellites.

Re: SpaceX CRS-6 Launch Webcast

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post #16

"Hold. Hold. Hold. Weather is no go" @ 4:31pm EST

> Launch postponed due to lightning from an approaching anvil cloud ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/587715056432889856 ) Anyone know how they detect lightnings? Is it just cameras, or do they have planes flying around?

Using radio, presumably.

There is a considerable body of research on detecting the presence and range of lightning: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_detection

Re: SpaceX CRS-6 Launch Webcast

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post #16

"Hold. Hold. Hold. Weather is no go" @ 4:31pm EST

> Launch postponed due to lightning from an approaching anvil cloud ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/587715056432889856 ) Anyone know how they detect lightnings? Is it just cameras, or do they have planes flying around?

Antennas, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_detection
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