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CloudFlare Is Now a Google Cloud Platform Technology Partner

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Re: CloudFlare Is Now a Google Cloud Platform Technology Partner

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Post by oaktowner »

rgbrenner wrote: post #42
oaktowner wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Product Manager here. Not sure why you think most Google Cloud Services are in beta. The Google Cloud products page [1] lists 17 main products. Two are in alpha (Container Engine, Deployment Manager), one is in beta (Pub/Sub). The rest are fully supported. There are some beta features here and there...but saying "most" are in beta is certainly not correct. [1] https://cloud.google.com/products/

The Google Cloud products page [1] lists 17 main products. Two are in alpha (Container Engine, Deployment Manager), one is in beta (Pub/Sub). The rest are fully supported. Wait a second. I just clicked though the items on that page, and the following are listed as alpha: Container Engine Cloud Dataflow Cloud Deployment Manager The following are in Beta: HTTP/HTTPS Load Balancing Virtual Private Network Cloud Pub/Sub…

Actually, I just filed a bug internally to fix docs. You're right -- alpha/beta is not clearly shown consistently enough (I missed at least one in going through that list).

In some cases, there are GA products with alpha/beta features & languages, so it may be difficult to figure out the best way to communicate at the top level (e.g., the examples pointed out for a given feature in a given language, or HTTP load balancing vs Network Load balancing).

But in cases where it's clearly a beta product, it should be clear.

Re: CloudFlare Is Now a Google Cloud Platform Technology Partner

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Post by sudhirj »

higherpurpose wrote: post #2

Does this mean it will be even harder to DDoS sites protected by Cloudflare now?

It's always been hard to DDoS sites protected by Cloudflare. Their business model is to promise to absorb any DDoS attack against you - and I think they've delivered so far.

Re: CloudFlare Is Now a Google Cloud Platform Technology Partner

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Post by kayone »

ryanlol wrote: post #50
rgbrenner wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they've even got a competing service Google PageSpeed that does exactly what CF does You mean this service? https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/service PageSpeed Service is in a limited field trial, and is not currently accepting new signups

Oh, I didn't know they closed signups. I've been using it for some personal projects for a good while (Since 2011 or so?) now.

it was never really open.

Re: CloudFlare Is Now a Google Cloud Platform Technology Partner

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Post by jsprogrammer »

humanarity wrote: post #43
philip1209 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And to tack on - this is how they act like a CDN. In general they don't pull CSS, images, etc every time from your server - they pull it once, then cache it at edge locations.

Got it, cool.

They also capture all your content and communications.

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Post by rgbrenner »

ryanlol wrote: post #50
rgbrenner wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they've even got a competing service Google PageSpeed that does exactly what CF does You mean this service? https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/service PageSpeed Service is in a limited field trial, and is not currently accepting new signups

Oh, I didn't know they closed signups. I've been using it for some personal projects for a good while (Since 2011 or so?) now.

Yes, announced in 2011. Looks like it was launched with limited signups: http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2011/07/page-spee...

If google still doesnt think it has a marketable product after 4 years.. maybe a cloudflare acquisition isn't too far fetched.

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Post by devicenull »

philip1209 wrote: post #27
throwaway000002 wrote: post #18

This is sorta an internet architecture question for those in the know. Assuming there's no issue with client reachability/latency, what's stopping CloudFlare from having a single IP? Suppose the IP was behind a fat enough pipe, why not load balance behind it instead of DNS load-balancing in front of it (and additionally behind each as I presume now happens)? Also, if that IP was anycast then you could ignore the issu…

My understanding is that they basically "fast flux" IPs to funnel traffic for targeted attack to a specific data center. So, while you normally may be sharing IPs, if an enterprise customer's website example.com starts getting attacked they will put it on dedicated IPs, then broadcast those IPs from one or two data centers. They will then reroute all other enterprise traffic away from those data centers, thus minimiz…

Keep in mind you can generally only anycast a /24's worth of IP addresses, so it's very unlikely they're doing this with single IPs.

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Post by nostrademons »

ryanlol wrote: post #47
relaunched wrote: post #29

I wonder if this is one of those strategic deals that would lead to an acquisition. With the push surrounding cloud and Google actively competing hard in this space, it would make a lot of sense.

Problem is that (besides for the brand) Cloudflare really has nothing to offer for Google. Google has spent the last 20 years solving the same problems CF is aiming to solve, they've even got a competing service Google PageSpeed that does exactly what CF does, except better (in my personal experience.).

Google sucks at productizing their infrastructure expertise. The underlying tech at Google is indeed better than CloudFlare, but CloudFlare understands marketing, ease-of-use, product simplicity, all those stuff that are necessary to get people to actually use your offering.

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Post by ryanlol »

nostrademons wrote: post #57
ryanlol wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Problem is that (besides for the brand) Cloudflare really has nothing to offer for Google. Google has spent the last 20 years solving the same problems CF is aiming to solve, they've even got a competing service Google PageSpeed that does exactly what CF does, except better (in my personal experience.).

Google sucks at productizing their infrastructure expertise. The underlying tech at Google is indeed better than CloudFlare, but CloudFlare understands marketing, ease-of-use, product simplicity, all those stuff that are necessary to get people to actually use your offering.

I don't think they need CloudFlare for that though, they just need marketing people to sell it. I can't see CloudFlare acquisition being worth it for Google just for their marketing expertise.

Re: CloudFlare Is Now a Google Cloud Platform Technology Partner

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Post by nivla »

Recently I have been getting cautious about Cloudflare. I do use them and like them a lot, also enjoy reading their technical blogposts. However from a privacy stand point it makes me feel uneasy. Cloudflare is just everywhere now: HN, Stackoverflow, Reddit and countless other sites. You can block a cookie, connection to a third party script, but how do you block an internal proxy? All your cookies, credentials, heck even HTTP request and response goes through them. Also why is there cloudflare specific cookie (__cfduid) on sites may not prefer tracking users? (eg: HN)

Maybe I am just being paranoid...

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