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Voyage to Nowhere: The Amazon Kindle Story

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Re: Voyage to Nowhere: The Amazon Kindle Story

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>and white light is the worst for reading in bed. It’s proven to keep you awake. This is not a great argument. First, because the Kindle allows you to dim the screen, and in fact, does so automatically in dark rooms. Pulling my Voyage out and comparing it to my screen with Flux, anecdotally, it looks to be producing less light than my laptop does. And what are the alternatives? Not lighting the kindle display, and ha…

Plus, the article gets it wrong: the Paperwhite screen isn't backlit, the leds are oriented perpendicularly from the reading angle, so there is no direct light shining your eyes. Add that to the automatic dimming, the Paperwhite isn't going to keep you awake. As an anecdote, I am immensely susceptible to falling asleep when reading in the dark with the Paperwhite.

I don't understand your point: the orientation of the lighting is irrelevant with respect to suppressing melanin production. The cold temperature of the Kindle LEDs, ostensibly selected to make the screen appear white in the presence of warmer ambient lighting, is likely to have enough of a blue component to disrupt sleep. Total luminescence isn't a factor in suppressing melanin production either, as someone else has posted in this thread, so automatic dimming doesn't help either. The automatic dimming, if it worked well (it didn't in my case) would help reduce eye strain by matching the Kindle screen brightness with the ambient light level.

Re: Voyage to Nowhere: The Amazon Kindle Story

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> The justification notion, I would argue that the typical user may not notice it as much as the hardcore reader. The fact of the matter is it impacts all readers, whether they recognize it or not, and there is a reason the printing industry generally doesn't do it.

At what point would you acknowledge that maybe the large number of people who think they prefer full justification... actually prefer full justification?

I wasn't denying people's preferences. I was pointing out that it has an impact even if people don't notice the justification.

Re: Voyage to Nowhere: The Amazon Kindle Story

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post #96

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Plus, the article gets it wrong: the Paperwhite screen isn't backlit, the leds are oriented perpendicularly from the reading angle, so there is no direct light shining your eyes. Add that to the automatic dimming, the Paperwhite isn't going to keep you awake. As an anecdote, I am immensely susceptible to falling asleep when reading in the dark with the Paperwhite.

I don't understand your point: the orientation of the lighting is irrelevant with respect to suppressing melanin production. The cold temperature of the Kindle LEDs, ostensibly selected to make the screen appear white in the presence of warmer ambient lighting, is likely to have enough of a blue component to disrupt sleep. Total luminescence isn't a factor in suppressing melanin production either, as someone else has…

Yes, you're right. Perhaps my original statement was a bit too extreme in that sense. I'd wager, though, that having the screen not be back lit at least reduces sleep disruption, that is, it fares better than backlit screens in that regard. I don't know if there are any studies that have proven this to be the case though.

Re: Voyage to Nowhere: The Amazon Kindle Story

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Another point is just how dreadful the Kindle store is. That is just a rat-infested cellar of literature. I'm not even talking about bad writers; I mean literal fraudsters.

And the personalization is useless. I have a very specific profile: history, statistics textbooks, classic literature, modern poetry. The front page of the store, right now, is offering me "Billy The Bug: Short Stories, Games, Jokes and More"; "Frontiers Saga 13", some kind of space crap; and "Highland Guard" (picture: weedy man with sword).

Plus about four 50 Shades clones. I used to worry about the age of Total Internet Surveillance; turns out Amazon can't even figure out my gender.

Re: Voyage to Nowhere: The Amazon Kindle Story

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Does KOReader fix the Kindle typography? That is, get rid of the rivers of white running through the poorly justified pages?

Yes, it fixes most of it. I would not say it's perfect either but it's much, much better than the default Kindle Viewer. it also gives you a lot more options on how to tweak the way it reflows text, as well as font choices. It makes it a much better device for reading.

Awesome, thanks. I'm going to give it a try.

Re: Voyage to Nowhere: The Amazon Kindle Story

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I had been planning to launch a big, public campaign about Kindle typography to try and get Amazon to change her ways. But I came to the conclusion: why bother? This is precisely the feeling I had right before I resigned from my position at Amazon. Though I worked at a subsidiary, not Amazon proper, the culture at Amazon everywhere can be absurdly stubborn. In the presence of a bad team, the "leadership principles" c…

I agree with this post, but not with regards to the Kindle, but more Amazon as an entity. Also, perfect timing to read this article, after just purchasing a Kindle Paperwhite and having it for a few weeks now. As a casual reader, I find the Kindle Paperwhite as the perfect medium for my reading needs. I can hold it in one hand, I can read it any time of the day with adjustable brightness, and the e-ink is very clear…

Just to chime in from the opposite angle, I, too, have a Paperwhite. I've had it for quite a while now, and it's receded to being a "once a month" thing. There's some reason that the act of reading on it just isn't as comfortable as reading a physical page. I'm not a "casual reader" when it comes to physical books at all, and I was hoping that the Kindle would help me avoid having to buy more shelf-space, but if the product is preventing "casual readership" from turning into "hardcore readership", wherever you draw those lines, it's hard to see a business reason for doing so.

I'll happily blame the justification, but there are other layout problems which also distract: image handling and inconsistent paging don't help in the slightest.

Re: Voyage to Nowhere: The Amazon Kindle Story

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This person seems extremely picky. I have pretty much every generation of kindle and they just keep getting incrementally better. Resolution, backlight, multiple dictionaries, x-ray, etc.

Completely agreed. The worse argument is the one about the backlight not being red... If you care about that kind of thing you already have a bedside luminotherapy lamp. Which means you will use it to read (which is way more comfortable). The backlight's primary function is to counter the effect of the sun in daytime park / balcony / beach / etc... reading. You need a lot of luminosity, and certainly not weak ass red…

Er, what? You only need the backlight in the dark. In the light, you have the light. That's what makes e-ink good.

Re: Voyage to Nowhere: The Amazon Kindle Story

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It's not for the faint of heart, given the inaccessible brick-ness of the Kindle and its long, nerve-racking reboot time, but you can jailbreak your device and install KUAL (app launcher) and KOReader. http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203326 https://github.com/koreader/koreader ePub and PDF support, text reflow/cropping/reformatting (great for papers!), plethora of options from contrast to margins, c…

… but not on Voyage (they made sure in the new FW you won't do any of that).

Re: Voyage to Nowhere: The Amazon Kindle Story

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post #113

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I don't understand your point: the orientation of the lighting is irrelevant with respect to suppressing melanin production. The cold temperature of the Kindle LEDs, ostensibly selected to make the screen appear white in the presence of warmer ambient lighting, is likely to have enough of a blue component to disrupt sleep. Total luminescence isn't a factor in suppressing melanin production either, as someone else has…

Yes, you're right. Perhaps my original statement was a bit too extreme in that sense. I'd wager, though, that having the screen not be back lit at least reduces sleep disruption, that is, it fares better than backlit screens in that regard. I don't know if there are any studies that have proven this to be the case though.

I'm not sure what the mechanism would be here? What are you proposing?

Re: Voyage to Nowhere: The Amazon Kindle Story

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post #74

I have to say I disagree with the author on everything except the typesetting issues. The buttons to change the page are really good and the feedback try provide is very pleasant, just like clicking a physical button. I'm also quite happy with the white light, and don't really understand why a light that is meant for me to read should make me fall asleep. Quite the opposite, if anything it should help me keep awake a…

The theory is that a warmer light wouldn't wear your eyes out, so you'd be able to keep them open to read and stay awake for longer, not that it would make you fall asleep.
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