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Elementary OS Freya Released

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Re: Elementary OS Freya Released

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Post by wanda »

octref wrote: post #50

It really saddens me how much people underestimate the effort it takes to create a good UI by saying eOS is just a "pretty Ubuntu clone". I don't think their blog post[1] is offensive at all. Ubuntu does this too. [2] People consider Sublime's popup and "unregistered user" acceptable. How often do you install/download eOS? Once in a year? And you use it every-day , not only when you do text-editing. And there is no d…

I think it's very cheeky to pseudo-paywall an operating system that has reached version 0.3 and is still very temperamental. Granted, the install process was a breeze--I'd expect this from a Ubuntu clone--but once the system is installed it's far from stable. Pantheon is a great step forward for Linux UI design but it can be very buggy compared to the tried and true alternatives. Even Unity, as much as I detest it, runs very smoothly.

Maybe it's just me, maybe eOS runs perfectly on everybody else's computers, but the standard install has proven a little buggy and I've had to make adjustments from the command line to make it usable.

I think if Windows or OS X didn't work out-of-the-box, I'd want a refund and I'd consider a free alternative. eOS is great for free, but for money? Not so sure.

Re: Elementary OS Freya Released

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Post by morbius »

wanda wrote: post #84
morbius wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm going to get a lot of hate for this but if you really, honestly want a no-frills, easy to set up UNIX for your personal computer, there really is no better machine than a Macintosh.

I agree. I have an iMac and a Thinkpad; I classify these as my work computers. I really like OS X. It blends the Unix operating system with the best looks/UI of the OS market. If I could install it (easily/legally) on any hardware, I would run it everywhere. At home I have a collection of misfit laptops that were discarded by others or sold very cheaply. It is these laptops on which I tend to run a Linux distro (beca…

> If I could install it (easily/legally) on any hardware, I would run it everywhere.

That's why I said personal computer :) Another OS X pitfall is that modern, vendor-supported versions are somewhat resource-intensive and not very fit for running on older or less powerful systems.

Re: Elementary OS Freya Released

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Post by lazaroclapp »

tormeh wrote: post #80
lazaroclapp wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, that's a bit different, specially if they mean that in the general, unless they are contributing directly to every single project they package with their distro and paying every contributor. They are still within their rights to decide that their add-ons are proprietary non-zero cost software, at least those add-ons that don't link GPL code/modify LGPL code. But if their main value added is indeed modifying GPL c…

Why? Developing software requires man-hours, likewise modifying software. It's not wrong to want compensation for that, regardless of license. Or maybe you hold the opinion that everyone who releases software under the GPL are suckers who shouldn't expect anything?

No, they still can ask for money. Read my comments above, I actually defend their right to make paid download the default. What they cannot do is take code released under the GPL, themselves likely getting it for free, the accuse anyone who copies their modifications without paying them of "cheating the system". They can even outright sell that software and not allow $0, that's fine, but someone will likely put a mirror up, and that person isn't "cheating the system", is playing by the same rules everyone else is. For the record, I have paid for (some) GPL software, and I still don't think it's any less valid to get it for free (most free software I have ever used is also free as in price, so...).

Re: Elementary OS Freya Released

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Post by hippich »

thoreauway wrote: post #66
hippich wrote: post #47

Did anyone try it on recent macbookpro? I have one somewhere I am not using, because i did not like how kde/gnome shell looked on retina screen, and wonder if eOS solved this problem.

If you have a MBP Retina you're not using, maybe I can use it? :)

company laptop. if it would be mine - i would just sell it :)
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