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Voyage to Nowhere: The Amazon Kindle Story

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Re: Voyage to Nowhere: The Amazon Kindle Story

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To replicate the experience of the Kindle Voyage ‘button’ find an immovable surface in your house: a marble kitchen countertop will do. Place your thumb upon the surface, then press down – deforming your thumb. Not pleasant, is it? I don't follow. It feels like I'm pressing down on something. Of all the things I can think of that would cause an RSI, pinching a pressure-sensitive button seems low on the list. I also d…

I own a voyage, but can't come up with the answer to one simple question. In what way are those stupid little touch strips actually BETTER than real buttons? Since there's no actual physical feedback you can't tell how hard you have to press. They've tried to fix this by letting you set sensitivity levels, but that doesn't work great. Then I thought it would be a good idea to add a pager motor to fake physical feedback by vibrating when you would've made a press.

None of this works as well as the buttons on Kindle keyboard , but I bet it cost a hell of lot more money.

> that you can skip several generations and pick out the revisions that you like most.

The problem is that you really can't. Despite owning the absolute top-of-the-line device the software feels half-baked. Shortly after launch it would often crash itself and require physical restarts. The on screen keyboard is absolutely atrocious, Which they appear to tried to fix with text suggestions. The suggestions are slow and wildly inconsistent which makes it impossible to quickly use them. Even if it suggests the right word you never know where on the suggestion bar to actually going to pop-up.

As the author mentions the text layout system hasn't been updated in years despite obvious problems. I waited years for a new version with physical buttons but ended up settling for the somewhat acceptable touch strips. He complains about the lighting system, which is apparently still a problem for a lot of for a lot of voyage users (luckily I'm not one).

Also Amazon doesn't seem to do anything to control or improve the quality of e-books. They're often laughably bad.

His main thesis is dead on. The project doesn't feel like anyone who actually likes books is working on it. It doesn't feel like a passion, it feels like a terrible afterthought that people rotate in and out of making random changes to try and look like they did some management.

Re: Voyage to Nowhere: The Amazon Kindle Story

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I had a second generation Kindle (still had buttons, still had free 3G everywhere in the world, which was an awesome feature), and loved it. I dropped it many, many times, over the years, and finally the screen broke. So, I replaced it with a Paper White.

It's a better product in most regards, but I find I use it for reading far less. I tend to almost exclusively read on my Nexus 7. Twilight makes it possible to dim and turn the screen orange, which isn't something Kindle can do, so I like it for night time reading. I haven't tried to figure out which is better for getting to sleep after reading, but I suspect both are problematic.

Also, the Nexus is faster than the Kindle, in every dimension, so it's just more fun to browse/buy books. And, as others have noted, the touch screen on the Paper White is bad. Not a little bad, either. It's annoying as hell. And, I've also had problems with unintended page turns, and intended turns not working. The Nexus 7 has a great touch screen.

I also have an Amazon Fire Phone, and that's enough to convince me that Amazon just can't do hardware well. It's an awful phone; it would have been barely passable three years ago. Today it's laughable. And, their priorities for where to expend resources are way out of whack. The 3D stuff and four front-facing cameras to make it work, is just ridiculous. I'd much rather have one good camera than five shitty ones.

I recently got some ebooks from O'Reilly, and found that they looked much better in Google Books than on the Kindle or in the Kindle app. Amazon might be in trouble. I currently have a Kindle Unlimited subscription, so I still do most of my reading in Kindle (whether the app or the hardware Kindle), but the experience of reading in Google Books is better.

Re: Voyage to Nowhere: The Amazon Kindle Story

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I use the Kindle app for Android because that is where the indie authors seem to be. I use the app in spite of itself. The Kindle app on Android has over the past few years been such a buggy piece of shit that I curse it's very existence. It alone has demonstrated that Amazon can't competently develop mobile apps worth a damn and made me laugh when I heard Amazon was making a phone.

Once a month Amazon seems to make a release that outright breaks a critical flow in the app. For the past couple weeks I've had to use the website to skim through books because every time the app tries to open the store view for a book the app instead opens Chrome with "about:blank" as the URL. /facepalm

I'll ignore the fact the tablet version gets a proper store interface (when it's not completely broken) but the cellphone version gets a regurgitated ancient web view that was last updated a half decade ago.

I can only conclude that Kindle isn't profitable for Amazon at all and they throw appropriate talent at it... that is none at all.

Does Apple give a rip about iBooks? Google doesn't seem to give a crap about getting indies on Google Play.

Re: Voyage to Nowhere: The Amazon Kindle Story

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I really pity the author. He's lost the ability to enjoy a book and throws a fit when typesetting is flawed. A sure path to disappointment and unhappiness is to demand only "the best" in everything. He should just learn to read his books as they are.

Why should someone choose to read on Amazon if the experience is so hostile? It's a lament for a lost opportunity most of all.

Re: Voyage to Nowhere: The Amazon Kindle Story

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I really pity the author. He's lost the ability to enjoy a book and throws a fit when typesetting is flawed. A sure path to disappointment and unhappiness is to demand only "the best" in everything. He should just learn to read his books as they are.

Have you used a Kindle? It's not small nitpicking, sometimes they layouts it makes are laughably bad and hard to read. Basic stuff that anyone who has read a book would notice at some point and it hasn't been fixed in YEARS.

Re: Voyage to Nowhere: The Amazon Kindle Story

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It's not for the faint of heart, given the inaccessible brick-ness of the Kindle and its long, nerve-racking reboot time, but you can jailbreak your device and install KUAL (app launcher) and KOReader.

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203326

https://github.com/koreader/koreader

ePub and PDF support, text reflow/cropping/reformatting (great for papers!), plethora of options from contrast to margins, custom fonts, per-document style sheets, etc etc.

You can also install things like Gargoyle for interactive fiction on the go.

http://www.fabiszewski.net/kindle-gargoyle/

Just make sure to set up BackDoorLock so that Amazon can't force an OTA update on you.

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205666

You might also want the Rescue Pack in case things go wrong. It boots you into diagnostics mode if you start your Kindle with a USB cable plugged in..

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195670

(how to exit diags mode) http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Kindle_Touch_Hacking#Exiting...

See the FGA thread and MobileRead's "Kindle Developer's Corner" for more info.

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237083

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=150

Re: Voyage to Nowhere: The Amazon Kindle Story

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I really pity the author. He's lost the ability to enjoy a book and throws a fit when typesetting is flawed. A sure path to disappointment and unhappiness is to demand only "the best" in everything. He should just learn to read his books as they are.

Wait, what? Shitty typography makes a book substantially harder to read.

With good typography, the color of text blocks is even and flowing, and logical structure of headings, captions, block quotations, etc. is obvious and clear without calling attention to itself. With shitty typography, the eye is constantly pulled away from a regular flow by the uneven color within text blocks or by distracting elements on the page, certain words or phrases are illegible and require scrutiny (in some cases, switching focus back and forth between two places on the page or even between pages) and effort to figure out, and inconsistencies impose a small but continuous mental tax on the reader.

Re: Voyage to Nowhere: The Amazon Kindle Story

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It's not for the faint of heart, given the inaccessible brick-ness of the Kindle and its long, nerve-racking reboot time, but you can jailbreak your device and install KUAL (app launcher) and KOReader. http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203326 https://github.com/koreader/koreader ePub and PDF support, text reflow/cropping/reformatting (great for papers!), plethora of options from contrast to margins, c…

Does KOReader fix the Kindle typography? That is, get rid of the rivers of white running through the poorly justified pages?

Re: Voyage to Nowhere: The Amazon Kindle Story

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To be fair, I find it much easier to fall asleep after using my Kindle Paperwhite than I do with an iPad. But, virtually every aspect of the Kindle ecosystem user experience is an experience in mediocrity. In some respects, I feel like the company is like what you'd get if you crossed the worst aspects of Microsoft and Google. (And apologies to my friends who work at Amazon, but let's be honest: you're all going to q…

I stuck with my gen 3 kindle -- more memory than future gens, no ads, and the option of audio books (never used it). As technology progresses, I expect more not less. That said, it doesn't have the backlight and using a cover w/ built in light while the significant other tries to sleep? Yeah, no.

I've resorted to using a camping headlamp set on "red" (not as bright/obtrusive) when I want to use the kindle to read. However, I mostly just use my phone and the Kindle app.

Advances in the display beyond the gen 3 (first I bought) didn't merit any sort of upgrade for me.

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