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Artificial Sweeteners May Change Our Gut Bacteria in Dangerous Ways

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Re: Artificial Sweeteners May Change Our Gut Bacteria in Dangerous Ways

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Interestingly enough, a low carbohydrate (often including a switch to artificial sweeteners) is a well-established treatment for childhood epilepsy.

The validity low carb diets is generally orthogonal to artificial sweeteners and probably should not be conflated.

Thus the phrase "often including..."

I wasn't attempting to disprove or contribute to his claims. Just to point out an interesting intersection of diet and seizures.

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> Methadone is really harmful. > So heroin is back in? Evidently, both are bad and it doesn't seem to be immediately clear whether real sugar or artificial is more harmful. But we do know for a fact that excess carbohydrate intake causes numerous serious health problems (heart problems, obesity, diabetes, Alzheimer's, etc).

Which is depressing because carbohydrates are so tasty. It's all I can do to resist them.

Try going low carb for a month. There are amazing low carb foods too.

Like steak.

And bacon.

And cheese.

Re: Artificial Sweeteners May Change Our Gut Bacteria in Dangerous Ways

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Purely anecdotal: what I remember from the time the Doc was trying to determine what was making me sick while eating was the list of items totally off my diet. Besides the obvious, no dairy, no carbonated, no caffeine, and limit on other items like fats and salts, was no artificial sweeteners.

I didn't question it at the time as I was desperately in need of getting the situation fixed. Turned out the Ciphro I had taken; as last resort type medicine; had killed all the good bacteria and such in my intestinal tract letting something else move in. Another series of drugs later and that was cleared up but he still left me with a list of items to curtail for the next six months until all tests came clean and one was artificial sweeteners.

Re: Artificial Sweeteners May Change Our Gut Bacteria in Dangerous Ways

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> had 50 percent fewer Bacteroidetes bacteria and 50 percent more Firmicutes bacteria than normal mice did. When they transferred a sample of the Firmicutes bacterial population from the obese mice into normal-weight ones, the normal mice became fatter.

Woah. I assume someone is now doing research on introducing Bacteroidetes into the guts of obese people?

Re: Artificial Sweeteners May Change Our Gut Bacteria in Dangerous Ways

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Aspartame (Nutrasweet) is pretty controversial in how it got approved by the FDA. See: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robbie-gennet/donald-rumsfeld-... When I was 8 years old, I started having grand mal seizures and my parents noted a strong correlation between drinking a Diet Coke and having a seizure. When they eliminated it from my diet, my seizures declined. Fortunately I stopped having seizures around 12 years of…

Interestingly enough, a low carbohydrate (often including a switch to artificial sweeteners) is a well-established treatment for childhood epilepsy.

Really? Can you point to a source?

Many people with epilepsy and migraines have discovered different food triggers. In my case Aspartame was the leading trigger. Anyone who has seizures should seek out and eliminate potential triggers to see if it helps. I suppose a high carb diet could be a trigger for someone... I didn't have a high carb diet... but I know eliminating aspartame helped me.

I am still amazed how Donald Rumsfeld was able to influence its approval by the FDA.

Re: Artificial Sweeteners May Change Our Gut Bacteria in Dangerous Ways

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I'm not sure that stevia is an "artificial" sweetener.

Your body doesn't care whether something was made by humans or whether it was made by nature. It only cares about the particularities of the molecules involved.

But for 99% of human history everything put into human bodies was made by nature.

Re: Artificial Sweeteners May Change Our Gut Bacteria in Dangerous Ways

#47
"He and his team analyzed a database of 381 men and women and found that those who used artificial sweeteners (...) were also more likely to have impaired glucose tolerance."

So those who are intolerant to glucose tend to avoid glucose? That hardly seems surprising.

Re: Artificial Sweeteners May Change Our Gut Bacteria in Dangerous Ways

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Interestingly enough, a low carbohydrate (often including a switch to artificial sweeteners) is a well-established treatment for childhood epilepsy.

Really? Can you point to a source? Many people with epilepsy and migraines have discovered different food triggers. In my case Aspartame was the leading trigger. Anyone who has seizures should seek out and eliminate potential triggers to see if it helps. I suppose a high carb diet could be a trigger for someone... I didn't have a high carb diet... but I know eliminating aspartame helped me. I am still amazed how Dona…

They're likely referring to a ketogenic diet. They were quite common in the past before anticonvulsant meds were created, and are still used in intractable cases today, particularly in pediatric care. There's lots of information out there about their use in epilepsy.

Some to get you started:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2898565/

http://www.epilepsy.com/learn/treating-seizures-and-epilepsy...

http://www.mayoclinic.org/medical-professionals/clinical-upd...

Re: Artificial Sweeteners May Change Our Gut Bacteria in Dangerous Ways

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Does anyone have any thoughts how Xylitol or Erythritol might fare under a study like this? They're currently my go to sweeteners. I'm not sure why they're not more popular.

Add to that sorbitol. I like gum and and many brands like Orbit use it. Biggest side effect is it is actually a laxative in larger doses and some people have abdominal pain probably due to that (http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/568700).

Erythritol seems like the best sweetner though with minimal side effects under 50mg per day.

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