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Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

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post #49

The UI feels like a 1 to 1 copy of the Slack client, or is Slacks UI so common now copying it is just using the Chat-UI standard?

Slack borrowed a lot from earlier UIs, too. It's not like Slack is hugely innovative in this department, anyway. You pay for the service, not the UI.

For me the UI and its interactions is part of the service. UIs are really dominant when it comes to experience of a service.

Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

#92

Note that the same team also offer a Trello clone and an Evernote clone. Draw your own conclusions. http://digicoop.io/products

They built a kanban board and a collaborative notes application. There is nothing wrong about that.

Quite the contrary: Project and knowledge management or so important that you should not have just one (and additionally closed-source) application for that.

It's good to have competitors who focus on different workflows (Evernote was not built to be collaborative, Trello does not offer other display modes such as cards and a basic calendar).

I would not complain if they created another CRM as simple as Highrise or an open source helpdesk that could replace Zendesk (I really like helpful.io for this, btw).

Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

#93

The very first sentence irks me: "[…] for the only standardized chat protocol [XMPP]" Haven't they heard about IRC (RFCs 1459, 2810–2813)?

Maybe this only matters to me, but my biggest gripe with IRC as a protocol is the lack of embedded newline ability. Take away newlines and now you've prevented atomic code snippets and killed newline sensitive markup suck as Markdown.

I deeply appreciate the history and communities available on IRC, but as a protocol, good riddance to it.

Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

#94
post #89

A slight tangent, are there public XMPP servers? Are there open source projects that use XMPP for their public channels? I'm a little dismayed by how many Slack accounts I'm acquiring.

DuckDuckGo offers a great public XMPP service - https://duck.co/blog/xmpp-services-at-duckduckgo

Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

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post #92

Note that the same team also offer a Trello clone and an Evernote clone. Draw your own conclusions. http://digicoop.io/products

They built a kanban board and a collaborative notes application. There is nothing wrong about that. Quite the contrary: Project and knowledge management or so important that you should not have just one (and additionally closed-source) application for that. It's good to have competitors who focus on different workflows (Evernote was not built to be collaborative, Trello does not offer other display modes such as card…

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Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

#96
post #55

What prevents me from adopting XMPP for my team is the lack of push notifications to my phone. I don't want to have an app constantly maintain a connection and slowly drain my battery.

Some years ago I built an Android SDK that did background location and had an XMPP channel open for push notifications. This was before Android had Cloud Messaging available. Battery drain was minimal/negligible.

Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

#98

If you disabled or drastically resized the avatars and put the usernames not in a separate line, the window could hold a lot more content for single-line conversations like that.

If they wanted to borrow from Slack (as they have for so much of the UI), they could make that toggleable. Slack lets you disable avatars entirely and/or switch to a single-line view.

Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

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post #31
post #7

In my opinion, it doesn't matter if it looks like Slack. What matters is that I can deploy it on an existing infrastructure and still have control over the service instead of handing over control to a third-party.

I for one welcome slack competitors, self-hostable, open sources ones especially.

There's Candy: http://candy-chat.github.io/candy/
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