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Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

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Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

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Post by gwillen »

ge0rg wrote: post #21
emixam wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You will first need an XMPP account but then you can add GTalk users to your roster and chat with them.

GTalk has broken federation for Hangouts users, and they failed to enable s2s encryption, which is mandatory since February: https://github.com/stpeter/manifesto/blob/master/manifesto.t...

Can you explain, or point me to an explanation of, _in detail_, exactly what GTalk broke in terms of federation?

I find that in practice I can _sometimes_ communicate with _some_ users from _some_ clients, but it seems like it's flaky and there's not a clear pattern to it. Do you have any deeper insight?

Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

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Post by Kiro »

Touche wrote: post #75
simondelacourt wrote: post #3

The UI feels like a 1 to 1 copy of the Slack client, or is Slacks UI so common now copying it is just using the Chat-UI standard?

What's so original about the Slack ui? It's channels on the left and conversation on the right. A lot of irc clients look this way.

Sure but this is a clone down to the details. Tell me one IRC client that looks like Slack in the same way.

Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

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Post by flxfxp »

LaSombra wrote: post #7

In my opinion, it doesn't matter if it looks like Slack. What matters is that I can deploy it on an existing infrastructure and still have control over the service instead of handing over control to a third-party.

HipChat does this: https://www.hipchat.com/server

Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

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Post by arthurcolle »

goodmachine wrote: post #81

Note that the same team also offer a Trello clone and an Evernote clone. Draw your own conclusions. http://digicoop.io/products

They are like the Rocket-Internet.com of Rocket-Internet.com...It's getting almost too meta for me to handle.

More seriously, what's the problem here? Maybe they actually take security seriously (compared to Evernote), and maybe syncing on Polynote isn't fundamentally broken! (a boy can dream)

Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

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Post by nickysielicki »

lmm wrote: post #79
nickysielicki wrote: post #35

screen + ssh + irssi (+ bitlbee, if you need xmpp) > any web based solution. Why? Because I can see it on my phone and on my laptop, and it's as lightweight and simple as a `ssh -t irssi.myDomain.foo screen -DD -R` and I'm all caught up. This is, ofc, my $0.02. Stuck in the old way of doing things, I guess. Still pretty cool, particularly the deploy on DO.

How do you get notifications, particularly on your phone? With e.g. AIM I have an equally lightweight experience on the laptop (just browse to the URL), a functional app on my phone, and, crucially, push notifications that alert on my phone.

I bet you could hook irssi to sendmail on a regexp match of your name if you wanted, get SMS alerts.

Quick google found https://github.com/paddykontschak/irssi-notifier/blob/master...

I don't bother with it though. If I'm away from a computer, I don't need to see it.

Re: Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client

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Post by drcross »

emixam wrote: post #37
creshal wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Relatedly, why are you recommending only Pidgin, and not Gajim? Gajim covers a lot more XEPs than Pidgin (e.g. editing sent message).

We have updated the page to recommend Gajim instead. It is a better choice indeed.

Also Conversations doesnt allow for customer server IP address so it's unusable for me. Yaxim does which is why I will have to stay with it. Custom IP server addresses are important if you have DNS/NAT complications within your internal network compared to outside.
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