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Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition

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Post by grayfox »

maccard wrote: post #23
josteink wrote: post #19

To ask those complaining about 8gb not being enough... Please name one thing that won't allow you to do which is crucial in your day to day workflow. I'm not saying i don't believe you, I'm just genuinely curious. Edit: Looking at this thread, I have to say there has to be a cause and effect here somewhere. You have a million web-developers saying they need more than 8GB to use Chrome to surf web-pages and web-apps.…

From yesterday: I compile a large C++ code base in work, and a full rebuild takes about 15 minutes on my 40 core, 32GB ram desktop, and uses almost 20GB of RAM while doing so.

That's... intense.

An extreme case, for sure.

You likely would be remoting into this machine to compile this work, in any scenario involving you working on a mobile device.

With that being said, 16GB would preclude you, too.

Like the fellow above, still genuinely curious how 8GB is repelling a significant amount of people for a development machine.

A pixel2 with 8GB is a rocket ship, for my general full-stackery and system administrationating purposes.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition

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Post by dayyan »

josteink wrote: post #19

To ask those complaining about 8gb not being enough... Please name one thing that won't allow you to do which is crucial in your day to day workflow. I'm not saying i don't believe you, I'm just genuinely curious. Edit: Looking at this thread, I have to say there has to be a cause and effect here somewhere. You have a million web-developers saying they need more than 8GB to use Chrome to surf web-pages and web-apps.…

Multiple vagrant vm or docker container setup for SOA development. Add an IDE and multiple browser tabs you will easily start paging.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition

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Post by PopsiclePete »

spot wrote: post #11

does ubuntu really handle HiDPI? i have a 4K screen at home and it is a disaster.

Ubuntu itself may handle it, but lots of applications look terrible. Chrome is one of them, last time I checked. Firefox had certain scaling issues as well.

Sadly, Apple is still the only game in town when it comes to automatic and correct resolution scaling.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition

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Post by akfanta »

PopsiclePete wrote: post #26
josteink wrote: post #19

To ask those complaining about 8gb not being enough... Please name one thing that won't allow you to do which is crucial in your day to day workflow. I'm not saying i don't believe you, I'm just genuinely curious. Edit: Looking at this thread, I have to say there has to be a cause and effect here somewhere. You have a million web-developers saying they need more than 8GB to use Chrome to surf web-pages and web-apps.…

Run an OS X VM in order to illicitly develop iOS apps. Run a Windows 8 VM to work on legit Windows apps. Run both VM's at the same time. Anything under 16 GB is unacceptable to me. Developer edition? Nope, not really. I need Linux, Windows and OS X. So my only option remains, as ever, a macbook pro with 16GB RAM.

Why would you need both of them running at the same time though? Also, unless you are on Linux, you probably don't need both of these two VMs. Lastly, I don't quite understand why any serious developer would want to run their dev environment in a VM to begin with.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition

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Post by maccard »

pja wrote: post #29
maccard wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From yesterday: I compile a large C++ code base in work, and a full rebuild takes about 15 minutes on my 40 core, 32GB ram desktop, and uses almost 20GB of RAM while doing so.

I think it’s fair to say that your use case lies outside the current performance envelope available in laptop form :)

absolutely, but the parent didn't specify people using laptops.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition

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Post by mootothemax »

josteink wrote: post #19

To ask those complaining about 8gb not being enough... Please name one thing that won't allow you to do which is crucial in your day to day workflow. I'm not saying i don't believe you, I'm just genuinely curious. Edit: Looking at this thread, I have to say there has to be a cause and effect here somewhere. You have a million web-developers saying they need more than 8GB to use Chrome to surf web-pages and web-apps.…

To ask those complaining about 8gb not being enough... Please name one thing that won't allow you to do which is crucial in your day to day workflow.

Run two or three VMs, plus an IDE, plus have the standard apps open.

The cherry on the cake is then being able to then fire up another VM or separate IDE without giving it another a thought.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition

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Post by Alupis »

PopsiclePete wrote: post #26
josteink wrote: post #19

To ask those complaining about 8gb not being enough... Please name one thing that won't allow you to do which is crucial in your day to day workflow. I'm not saying i don't believe you, I'm just genuinely curious. Edit: Looking at this thread, I have to say there has to be a cause and effect here somewhere. You have a million web-developers saying they need more than 8GB to use Chrome to surf web-pages and web-apps.…

Run an OS X VM in order to illicitly develop iOS apps. Run a Windows 8 VM to work on legit Windows apps. Run both VM's at the same time. Anything under 16 GB is unacceptable to me. Developer edition? Nope, not really. I need Linux, Windows and OS X. So my only option remains, as ever, a macbook pro with 16GB RAM.

> So my only option remains, as ever, a macbook pro with 16GB RAM

If you are OK with running an illicit OSX VM, then a Thinkpad T or X series should be a fine choice if you prefer to run a flavor of Linux as the native OS. Thinkpad native Linux support is better than the macbook pro hardware (no funny fan glitches, etc). It basically "just works" and you can get 16GB's from the factory.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition

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Post by daigoba66 »

josteink wrote: post #19

To ask those complaining about 8gb not being enough... Please name one thing that won't allow you to do which is crucial in your day to day workflow. I'm not saying i don't believe you, I'm just genuinely curious. Edit: Looking at this thread, I have to say there has to be a cause and effect here somewhere. You have a million web-developers saying they need more than 8GB to use Chrome to surf web-pages and web-apps.…

Virtual machines

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition

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Post by avinassh »

Splendor wrote: post #2

This looks like the perfect laptop for me at this moment. I just worry that a ceiling of 8GB of RAM means it won't be the perfect laptop for me next year. And I'd like my laptop to last me 2-3 years.

Even I felt same and 8GB RAM did not bother me much. But then I read a comment[0] yesterday's thread and it changed my plans. I did bit of Googling and looks like people still facing issues.

[0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9332619

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