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Tor: Illegal Weapons

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Re: Tor: Illegal Weapons

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Law Enforcement knows very well how to deal with Tor, as evidenced by busts against Silk Road and even small time drug dealers as operation ononymous. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/operation-onymous-six-britons-arres...

Russia also knows how to go after Tor, as seen in Malware busts and the arrest of "Paunch" malware creator in Russia. http://geekslop.com/2013/blackhole-malware-creator-arrested-...

If individual guns can be sold online, it only means that Law Enforcement is not prioritising going after the sales of individual guns - right or wrong - they are not stopped by the use of Tor or even encryption.

Re: Tor: Illegal Weapons

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Big deal. It is not as if it is something hard to DIY if you are committed to breaking the law.

I think that is the stuff that both sides of second amendment shouting match fail to get - inventing deadly stuff is easy.

Re: Tor: Illegal Weapons

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Big deal. It is not as if it is something hard to DIY if you are committed to breaking the law. I think that is the stuff that both sides of second amendment shouting match fail to get - inventing deadly stuff is easy.

Would you have the same attitude about kiddie porn?

What you say is true, but being able to buy guns from Tor will save you a lot of hassle over trying to manufacture your own.

I think I am pretty open minded, but I was fairly shocked at what claimed to be available when I logged onto Tor to see what it was all about.

Re: Tor: Illegal Weapons

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Law Enforcement knows very well how to deal with Tor, as evidenced by busts against Silk Road and even small time drug dealers as operation ononymous. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/operation-onymous-six-britons-arres... Russia also knows how to go after Tor, as seen in Malware busts and the arrest of "Paunch" malware creator in Russia. http://geekslop.com/2013/blackhole-malware-creator-arrested-... If individual guns can…

They are stopped. But when they focus on an individual, or a site, they only need one mistake.

Re: Tor: Illegal Weapons

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How does this work? I guess they can not just ship the heavy guns via standard postal services? Aren't there controls in the shipping centers which check for scents of drugs, gunpowder, whatever?

Re: Tor: Illegal Weapons

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post #6

How does this work? I guess they can not just ship the heavy guns via standard postal services? Aren't there controls in the shipping centers which check for scents of drugs, gunpowder, whatever?

Actually they can. The controls they use do not scale and therefore are only used for targeted and random checks. Having one out of 100 packages seized won't really hurt your bottom line.

Re: Tor: Illegal Weapons

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Law Enforcement knows very well how to deal with Tor, as evidenced by busts against Silk Road and even small time drug dealers as operation ononymous. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/operation-onymous-six-britons-arres... Russia also knows how to go after Tor, as seen in Malware busts and the arrest of "Paunch" malware creator in Russia. http://geekslop.com/2013/blackhole-malware-creator-arrested-... If individual guns can…

Paunch had nothing to do with Tor and wasn't exactly trying to hide his identity.

Re: Tor: Illegal Weapons

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post #4

Big deal. It is not as if it is something hard to DIY if you are committed to breaking the law. I think that is the stuff that both sides of second amendment shouting match fail to get - inventing deadly stuff is easy.

Would you have the same attitude about kiddie porn? What you say is true, but being able to buy guns from Tor will save you a lot of hassle over trying to manufacture your own. I think I am pretty open minded, but I was fairly shocked at what claimed to be available when I logged onto Tor to see what it was all about.

Apples and oranges. Guns have no victim unless they are used and the vast majority of them, illegal or not, are never used to hurt anyone.

Our society fetishes guns enormously. I know some people who would be uncomfortable being in someone's house if they new they had a gun, even if they trust and know everyone in the house. Those same people are never scared by steak or hunting knives in the same house.

Re: Tor: Illegal Weapons

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you have the same attitude about kiddie porn? What you say is true, but being able to buy guns from Tor will save you a lot of hassle over trying to manufacture your own. I think I am pretty open minded, but I was fairly shocked at what claimed to be available when I logged onto Tor to see what it was all about.

Apples and oranges. Guns have no victim unless they are used and the vast majority of them, illegal or not, are never used to hurt anyone. Our society fetishes guns enormously. I know some people who would be uncomfortable being in someone's house if they new they had a gun, even if they trust and know everyone in the house. Those same people are never scared by steak or hunting knives in the same house.

In my country (Australia) I believe most people would be a little uncomfortable if they knew they were in a house with a gun. I'd certainly think the owner was a bit odd/unhinged unless they owned it as part of their employment (farmer, roo shooter etc.).

That said, I don't see this as a big deal. It's always been possible to mail weapons from a jurisdiction with easier access to them. Tor black markets just make it a little easier to organise.

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