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A man who was accidentally released from prison 88 years early

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What was he incarcerated for? Edit: Two counts of first-degree burglary and three counts of aggravated robbery

"Both men received two counts of first-degree burglary and three counts of aggravated robbery, for each of the three employees they made cooperate at the two stores... Then came the kidnapping charges: three counts of second-degree kidnapping, because they’d forced three employees in those two robberies to move from one part of a store to another."

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Re: A man who was accidentally released from prison 88 years early

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Talk about cruel punishments, locking up someone for two fucking robberies without any deaths for nearly a century is unreasonable, cruel and defies everything our civilization stands for.

But hey, private prison operators need to make money and police/DA/any part of the justice system profits from being "tough on crime"...

Thank God I'm German, even if you end up killing someone you'll at most get 15 years (okay, there are some exceptions, but they're literally exceptions, not like US where exceptions tend to become standards).

Re: A man who was accidentally released from prison 88 years early

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What was he incarcerated for? Edit: Two counts of first-degree burglary and three counts of aggravated robbery

"Both men received two counts of first-degree burglary and three counts of aggravated robbery, for each of the three employees they made cooperate at the two stores... Then came the kidnapping charges: three counts of second-degree kidnapping, because they’d forced three employees in those two robberies to move from one part of a store to another." Edit: and edit ninja'd...

I really dislike "stacked" charges. Maybe that's the best way to differentiate between "a burglary", "a burglary where an innocent person was involved", "a burglary where 3 innocent people were involved," and "a burglary where 3 innocent people were involved and made to do stuff beyond 'getting robbed'".

But assuming "equal" charges, is involving three people 3x as bad as involving one? Is "forcing people to move" 2x as bad as just robbing them?

Re: A man who was accidentally released from prison 88 years early

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Talk about cruel punishments, locking up someone for two fucking robberies without any deaths for nearly a century is unreasonable, cruel and defies everything our civilization stands for. But hey, private prison operators need to make money and police/DA/any part of the justice system profits from being "tough on crime"... Thank God I'm German, even if you end up killing someone you'll at most get 15 years (okay, th…

It's very similar to the drug problem. As soon as we label these people criminals, we just don't care what happens to them. Because they are now not people, the DA has no problem throwing every single possible crime against them. This means they are not prosecuted for much more than what they did. "Going easy" on criminals is not a good way to retain a position in government in the US, so we do the opposite.

It is interesting to note that the judge made good comments about how unjust this seemed, but was unable to do anything about it. That says a lot about our judicial system.

Re: A man who was accidentally released from prison 88 years early

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Talk about cruel punishments, locking up someone for two fucking robberies without any deaths for nearly a century is unreasonable, cruel and defies everything our civilization stands for. But hey, private prison operators need to make money and police/DA/any part of the justice system profits from being "tough on crime"... Thank God I'm German, even if you end up killing someone you'll at most get 15 years (okay, th…

Fifteen years while loved ones of the deceased spend the rest of their lives in mourning? Thank God I'm not.

Re: A man who was accidentally released from prison 88 years early

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Talk about cruel punishments, locking up someone for two fucking robberies without any deaths for nearly a century is unreasonable, cruel and defies everything our civilization stands for. But hey, private prison operators need to make money and police/DA/any part of the justice system profits from being "tough on crime"... Thank God I'm German, even if you end up killing someone you'll at most get 15 years (okay, th…

Not to mention they slapped them with kidnapping charges because they forced the people they were robbing into a room.... How the fuck....

The sad truth is the American people simply do not care. Period. If you are a criminal you are a nobody and you get everything you deserve in the eyes of many Americans. People sit and rot in prison for the stupidest of reasons or technicalities and then when they get out we are surprised when they sometime return to a life of crime? They don't know anything else and the rules of their parole are often impossible to adhere to without support. Like having to interview for jobs they know they won't get just to satisfy their parole terms. We really need to get more people out of the prisons and back on the streets with reasonable parole programs. However this is the "terrorism" argument all over again, no politician wants to sign his/her name to something like this because ONE single fuckup will have it all blow up in their face and potentially ruin their career....

Full Disclosure: I work for a company that, among other things, provides electronic monitoring to jurisdictions as an alternative to incarceration. That said any views expressed here are my own and not that of my employer.

Re: A man who was accidentally released from prison 88 years early

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Talk about cruel punishments, locking up someone for two fucking robberies without any deaths for nearly a century is unreasonable, cruel and defies everything our civilization stands for. But hey, private prison operators need to make money and police/DA/any part of the justice system profits from being "tough on crime"... Thank God I'm German, even if you end up killing someone you'll at most get 15 years (okay, th…

Fifteen years while loved ones of the deceased spend the rest of their lives in mourning? Thank God I'm not.

Why, what would be your concern?

Source: http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Germany/Uni...

Murder rate for 2011 (Homicide rate per year per 100,000 inhabitants): Germany: 0.86. USA: 5.

That's nearly 6x as many murders per capita in the USA than Germany.

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