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Arch Linux – Do it yourself

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Re: Arch Linux – Do it yourself

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Would not Linux From Scratch get even closer to "do it yourself"? http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/

Yeah, it's the most do-it-yourself but is pretty difficult if your not extremely comfortable with Linux. I tried to do it a few months back (without too much C knowledge) and couldn't figure out how to cross-compile/link libraries I needed. I got it to boot into a shell (without login). At this point, I could probably do it, but I prefer sticking with really minimal distros like CRUX and Void.

Re: Arch Linux – Do it yourself

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There's value in a shorter more targeted tutorial, but the canonical install instructions for Arch are instructive and detailed: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_guide Also, if you want to use Arch in a dependable way, subscribing to arch-announce is important[1]. It's a low traffic mailing list that notifies you of any manual steps you may need to take during a package upgrade. (I've been using Arch…

>There's value in a shorter more targeted tutorial

That's often true, but I was disappointed that this was little more than a rephrased version of what's on the Arch Wiki.

I love the Arch documentation on the Wiki. It's perfect for me– laid out well, easy to follow, arranged in a logical wiki order, and stuffed with insanely useful tips. The pages on stuff like tmux are fantastic.

Re: Arch Linux – Do it yourself

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Why not Gentoo, which provides source packages. Compile it yourself!

Archlinux also provides source packages, in the form of ABS (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Build_System) for "official" packages and AUR (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repository) for "unofficial" packages (in the "not officially supported" meaning).

Re: Arch Linux – Do it yourself

#34
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Gentoo is a much more rewarding and educational experience: https://www.gentoo.org/get-started/ https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:Main_Page

I've been using arch for quite a while, and I was wondering if you could explain why gentoo would be more rewarding for someone like me.

Re: Arch Linux – Do it yourself

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I really like Arch, because contrary to the popular belief it is the most hassle-free distro I've encountered. As vanilla and up-to-date as possible, but with the right amount of automation (binary pkgs and great simple utilities) baked in.

That said, some distros like nix and guix are addressing a much needed problem now---how to be able to get reproducible builds. Sadly, they haven't learnt many lessons Arch taught us. Last time I tried nix, installing mutt eventually pulled in python as a dependency!

Re: Arch Linux – Do it yourself

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post #35

I really like Arch, because contrary to the popular belief it is the most hassle-free distro I've encountered. As vanilla and up-to-date as possible, but with the right amount of automation (binary pkgs and great simple utilities) baked in. That said, some distros like nix and guix are addressing a much needed problem now---how to be able to get reproducible builds. Sadly, they haven't learnt many lessons Arch taught…

> I really like Arch, because contrary to the popular belief it is the most hassle free distro I've encountered.

I completely agree. I tried switching to Linux a few times in high school (early-mid '00s), and always had false starts with Fedora or Ubuntu. Usually the package manager would break and everything would fall to pieces. I ended up installing Arch as a Subversion server for some personal projects, and that's what finally made it click.

I use Arch exclusively at work and at home. I do Linux development, which means I have to test out our product on other distros, usually Ubuntu. Eight-plus years later, and Ubuntu's package manager still falls over nine times out of ten. Fedora falls over. Mint falls over. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

Arch Just Works. It's dead simple, requires very little maintenance, and when something does go wrong (maybe once a year), it's easy to fix or roll back. Arch is just files on a hard drive, not some nebulous set of five different package sources and databases and "releases" and blech.

Re: Arch Linux – Do it yourself

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post #27

Gentoo is a much more rewarding and educational experience: https://www.gentoo.org/get-started/ https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:Main_Page

LFS is a much more rewarding and educational experience.

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/6.6/chapter01/how.h...

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