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Massive, Illicit Bust of Edward Snowden Stuck to a War Monument in Brooklyn

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Re: Massive, Illicit Bust of Edward Snowden Stuck to a War Monument in Brooklyn

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Post by Phlarp »

wildmusings wrote: post #4

This is disgusting. Snowden lost any legitimacy he may have had as a whistle-blower when he started exposing the unquestionably legitimate foreign intelligence activities and capabilities of the United States. You have to be naive to think the Russians are harboring him without something in exchange: even more information about our foreign intelligence activities. This traitor's bust does not belong among the remains…

>You have to be naive to think the Russians are harboring him without something in exchange

Other than the publicity win of playing host to the biggest thorn in your arch rivals side?

If you intend to say that he gave/gives material information directly to FSB, I'll need to see a source.

Re: Massive, Illicit Bust of Edward Snowden Stuck to a War Monument in Brooklyn

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Post by marssaxman »

wildmusings wrote: post #4

This is disgusting. Snowden lost any legitimacy he may have had as a whistle-blower when he started exposing the unquestionably legitimate foreign intelligence activities and capabilities of the United States. You have to be naive to think the Russians are harboring him without something in exchange: even more information about our foreign intelligence activities. This traitor's bust does not belong among the remains…

Do you have any evidence for your suppositions, or is that merely cynicism talking?

Re: Massive, Illicit Bust of Edward Snowden Stuck to a War Monument in Brooklyn

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Post by Phlarp »

[deleted] wrote: post #7
wildmusings wrote: post #4

This is disgusting. Snowden lost any legitimacy he may have had as a whistle-blower when he started exposing the unquestionably legitimate foreign intelligence activities and capabilities of the United States. You have to be naive to think the Russians are harboring him without something in exchange: even more information about our foreign intelligence activities. This traitor's bust does not belong among the remains…

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Sad to see that replying to yourself in order to whine about downvotes (and then deleting it) has made its way to hackernews from reddit.

Re: Massive, Illicit Bust of Edward Snowden Stuck to a War Monument in Brooklyn

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Post by pnathan »

majke wrote: post #8
wildmusings wrote: post #4

This is disgusting. Snowden lost any legitimacy he may have had as a whistle-blower when he started exposing the unquestionably legitimate foreign intelligence activities and capabilities of the United States. You have to be naive to think the Russians are harboring him without something in exchange: even more information about our foreign intelligence activities. This traitor's bust does not belong among the remains…

Sir. Edward does not expose anything. It's the journalists that choose the material. He made it very explicit from the start. > You have to be naive to think the Russians are harboring him Can you please provide a source? The quality of this comment is something I'd expect from a 50 cent army. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_brigades [EDIT] Softened language.

His recent history suggests he's a technically informed contributor. While my initial suspicion was a 50 cent army, it doesn't smell like a purpose-built troll.

Re: Massive, Illicit Bust of Edward Snowden Stuck to a War Monument in Brooklyn

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Post by AnkhMorporkian »

majke wrote: post #8
wildmusings wrote: post #4

This is disgusting. Snowden lost any legitimacy he may have had as a whistle-blower when he started exposing the unquestionably legitimate foreign intelligence activities and capabilities of the United States. You have to be naive to think the Russians are harboring him without something in exchange: even more information about our foreign intelligence activities. This traitor's bust does not belong among the remains…

Sir. Edward does not expose anything. It's the journalists that choose the material. He made it very explicit from the start. > You have to be naive to think the Russians are harboring him Can you please provide a source? The quality of this comment is something I'd expect from a 50 cent army. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_brigades [EDIT] Softened language.

Some of us truly believe that Snowden went too far. Calling all of us shills is counter-productive, dismissive, and extremely standoffish.

Re: Massive, Illicit Bust of Edward Snowden Stuck to a War Monument in Brooklyn

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Post by hspak »

borgia wrote: post #3

It has already been covered over with tarp and the letting removed[1]. It's a wonderful piece of work with excellent sentiment behind it. Unfortunately it doesn't suit the government and mainstream media narrative, so I'm sure the act of its erection will be decried as liberal terrorism and vandalism, the piece taken down and Snowden-related news once again brushed over. [1] http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brookl…

I wonder how long the sculpture stood up. The two articles were only published 2 hours apart.

Re: Massive, Illicit Bust of Edward Snowden Stuck to a War Monument in Brooklyn

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Post by toomuchtodo »

AnkhMorporkian wrote: post #16
majke wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sir. Edward does not expose anything. It's the journalists that choose the material. He made it very explicit from the start. > You have to be naive to think the Russians are harboring him Can you please provide a source? The quality of this comment is something I'd expect from a 50 cent army. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_brigades [EDIT] Softened language.

Some of us truly believe that Snowden went too far. Calling all of us shills is counter-productive, dismissive, and extremely standoffish.

The NSA went too far by violating the constitutional rights of US citizens, both on US soil and abroad. I'm unaware of how you can go "too far" when directing sunlight on corruption and illegal activities perpetrated by an arm of your own government.

Re: Massive, Illicit Bust of Edward Snowden Stuck to a War Monument in Brooklyn

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Post by wildmusings »

majke wrote: post #8
wildmusings wrote: post #4

This is disgusting. Snowden lost any legitimacy he may have had as a whistle-blower when he started exposing the unquestionably legitimate foreign intelligence activities and capabilities of the United States. You have to be naive to think the Russians are harboring him without something in exchange: even more information about our foreign intelligence activities. This traitor's bust does not belong among the remains…

Sir. Edward does not expose anything. It's the journalists that choose the material. He made it very explicit from the start. > You have to be naive to think the Russians are harboring him Can you please provide a source? The quality of this comment is something I'd expect from a 50 cent army. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_brigades [EDIT] Softened language.

Journalists can't publish information they don't have. Snowden was trusted with state secrets and he chose which documents he gave to journalists. You're right that he can't control what those journalists do with the documents. Just one of the many reasons that passing classified documents to the press (and especially foreign press) is illegal even if you think you're whistle-blowing on illegal activities. And to preempt your argument, going through the proper channels wouldn't have yielded the results that Snowden wanted. One man does not have the legitimacy to make policy.

I'm not paid to post political opinions. I hope you can open your mind and see that there are informed people in this world who don't agree with you.

Re: Massive, Illicit Bust of Edward Snowden Stuck to a War Monument in Brooklyn

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Post by teammatters »

Why is Edward Snowden a hero?

He divulged sensitive U.S. documents and information that now bad actors use to exploit/harm the US. Further, he knew what he was doing was against the law and ran as far away as he could to avoid facing the consequences(Bradley, now Chelsea Manning as far as I know didnt run like a coward). Now he's a pawn between Russia and US relations.

The information he divulged that we are being watched by our govt. was nothing knew. It was information publicly known back in 2006.

I don't get why he is so exalted?!?

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