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Re: Why the name?

#41

Great fun. One minor nitpick - the story of "Apache Server" being originally derived from "A Patchy Server" is a long-standing myth; the name was originally intended to be a tribute to the Apache Native American peoples. The Wikipedia article on Apache ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_HTTP_Server ) includes a link to an interview with Brian Behlendorf ( http://www.linux-mag.com/id/472/ ) where he explains how th…

Common stuff between Linux and wigwam - no windows, no gates, apache inside.

Re: Why the name?

#42
post #36

parrot (common virtual machine for dynamic languages) named after an April Fool's hoax that came true: http://www.perl.com/pub/2001/04/01/parrot.htm What a coincident. In 2015, Perl 6 (Parrot VM) and Python 3 have difficulties to transfer their community over from the former major releases Perl 5 and Python 2. Offtopic: We can learn from it. Like fixing a language early or never/only in small steps. Other examples: X…

J# definitely did not win. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J_Sharp#Future_of_J.23

Re: Why the name?

#43
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps you would find info pages more useful. For example, 'info grep'.

I find that the Man pages on BSD-derived systems are generally quite exceptional, where as GNU-based systems seem to be less so. `info` seems to be their attempt at making a better `man`, but it's pretty hit-or-miss if a Linux-based project thats not from the FSF supports infopages over manpages.

info itself is merely annoying (to me).

But the one thing I hate about info is that they often change the "see also" near the end of a man page from a list of similar or related commands that you might want to also read, to an invitation to use the info chapter for that command. Aarrrggghhh!

  man less
  ...
  SEE ALSO
         lesskey(1)


  man ls
  ...
  SEE ALSO
         The full documentation for ls is maintained as a  Texinfo  manual.
         If  the info and ls programs are properly installed at your site, the command

              info coreutils 'ls invocation'

       should give you access to the complete manual.
Why hijack a useful section? Why not just add a "SEE INFO" section?

Re: Why the name?

#44
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Searches for "Unix less" or "Linux less" are spot on. Even "less command line" will get you there easily. It's all about context. And of course there are always the man pages, which is usually the best place to start.

I personally find the man pages very dense and poorly organized. `man grep` for example is my own personal nightmare. I think the man pages should introduce a policy of simple usage examples instead of throwing 99% of information you don't care about at you at once. Something like http://bropages.org/

If you want high quality man pages go look at openBSD base, truly exceptional.

Even then, man pages nowadays are massive compared to what they were intended to be, complexity is the bane of all software.

Re: Why the name?

#46
mknod: "nowadays of extremely limited usefulness"

Interesting perspective. I use it almost daily.

The syscall as well as the provided utility of same name.

Re: Why the name?

#47

Great fun. One minor nitpick - the story of "Apache Server" being originally derived from "A Patchy Server" is a long-standing myth; the name was originally intended to be a tribute to the Apache Native American peoples. The Wikipedia article on Apache ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_HTTP_Server ) includes a link to an interview with Brian Behlendorf ( http://www.linux-mag.com/id/472/ ) where he explains how th…

http://web.archive.org/web/19970415054031/www.apache.org/inf...

> The Apache group was formed around a number of people who provided patch files that had been written for NCSA httpd 1.3. The result after combining them was A PAtCHy server.

(April 1997)

The new story is not consistent with what their website was saying not very long ago.

Re: Why the name?

#48

Great fun. One minor nitpick - the story of "Apache Server" being originally derived from "A Patchy Server" is a long-standing myth; the name was originally intended to be a tribute to the Apache Native American peoples. The Wikipedia article on Apache ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_HTTP_Server ) includes a link to an interview with Brian Behlendorf ( http://www.linux-mag.com/id/472/ ) where he explains how th…

Common stuff between Linux and wigwam - no windows, no gates, apache inside.

The 90's called, they want their terrible Linux-related jokes back.

Re: Why the name?

#49
post #36

parrot (common virtual machine for dynamic languages) named after an April Fool's hoax that came true: http://www.perl.com/pub/2001/04/01/parrot.htm What a coincident. In 2015, Perl 6 (Parrot VM) and Python 3 have difficulties to transfer their community over from the former major releases Perl 5 and Python 2. Offtopic: We can learn from it. Like fixing a language early or never/only in small steps. Other examples: X…

Perl 6's biggest mistake was naming their language Perl. It turns out Perl-6 is a completely different language from Perl-5, although they share the surrounding ecosystem. But now that the name is taken, Perl-5 is up to version 20.2 with no clear solution in sight to communicate version numbers in the future.

I don't think any of the Perl-6 developers actually advocates switching from Perl-5. (But please correct me if I'm wrong.) The situation is quite different from Python 3, which is the newest incarnation of the Python language.

Re: Why the name?

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post #32

The free software movement really needs to step up its name-game. No normal people want to use a program called The GIMP .

The iPad was mocked for sounding like a feminine hygeine product, yet it seems to have done alright for itself.

The difference is that normal people understand the meaning behind the name 'iPad' (Apple's use of 'i' prefix for mobile, the device is like a 'pad' of paper) whilst, to them, Gimp is just a bit ... weird and creepy.
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