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Spare a thought for the Western men trapped in Japan

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Re: Spare a thought for the Western men trapped in Japan

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> He claimed he was a communist — a Stalinist, even. He would engage in endless political debates during smoking breaks and drinking sessions. He dreamed of graduate school, an academic career and, one day, even leading a riot. I am really glad this guys dream's got crushed by reality. He just sounds like a horrible person.

There are plenty of confused college students wearing Che shirts. Reality is quite the cure all.

Re: Spare a thought for the Western men trapped in Japan

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>Sebastian, a 32-year-old student with several part-time jobs and 12 years of service in the German armed forces, was dumped by the Japanese girlfriend he had been seeing for a year because he had 'no future' in Japan, she said. Just what I need to read as I'm in the happiest relationship of my life with a Japanese girl.

Take heart: If you're dating a Japanese girl that wasn't raised in Japan, you probably have nothing to worry about. If you are, you're still probably okay - she's already going pretty far outside of the usual "traditional" values.

If you're really that worried, you could just be an adult and talk to her about your concerns before you take the plunge and get married. You should probably be doing this anyway - what are your goals and dreams? What do you expect to change or stay the same after getting married? What are your long term plans? These sorts of questions should be fully answered by both parties before you tie the knot.

Re: Spare a thought for the Western men trapped in Japan

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post #7

> He claimed he was a communist — a Stalinist, even. He would engage in endless political debates during smoking breaks and drinking sessions. He dreamed of graduate school, an academic career and, one day, even leading a riot. I am really glad this guys dream's got crushed by reality. He just sounds like a horrible person.

He sounds annoying, but not necessarily horrible. I mean, as not-horrible as you can be while identifying yourself with one of the greatest mass-murderers and psychopaths of the 20th century.

Agreed. At least he is not a follower of Mao, Hitler or Genghis Khan. Then he would be a really awful person.

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post #7

> He claimed he was a communist — a Stalinist, even. He would engage in endless political debates during smoking breaks and drinking sessions. He dreamed of graduate school, an academic career and, one day, even leading a riot. I am really glad this guys dream's got crushed by reality. He just sounds like a horrible person.

I knew three insufferable card-carrying members of the communist party in college. Ten years later, all three of them wound up becoming highly paid lawyers. The world needs assholes.

Re: Spare a thought for the Western men trapped in Japan

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This article does not tell the whole, sad truth about the landmines for Western men in relationships with Japanese women: 1) lack of full parental rights for men,[0] 2) potential for false allegations compounded with a very high conviction rate[1].

[0] http://www.blacktokyo.com/2013/11/24/divorce-child-kidnappin... [1] http://www.economist.com/node/17259159

Re: Spare a thought for the Western men trapped in Japan

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post #15

Interesting reading but I had to chuckle at this: "He dreamed of graduate school, an academic career, and even leading a riot" ... But now .. . "it’s difficult to see how he will ever have the money or mobility to realize his dreams" (of leading a riot)

I also chuckle at the writer who has no imagination. This guy is starting his own tribe. Is it so difficult to see how a tribe can lead to fulfilled Stalinist dreams and even riots.

Re: Spare a thought for the Western men trapped in Japan

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> Jim, an American in his late 20s, used to be a very passionate young man. He claimed he was a communist — a Stalinist, even. He would engage in endless political debates during smoking breaks and drinking sessions. He dreamed of graduate school, an academic career and, one day, even leading a riot. But instead, he got married to a Japanese girl and already had children by the time he graduated. She did not want to…

Anyone isnt clear that there has never been a communist country on earth?...

Re: Spare a thought for the Western men trapped in Japan

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> Jim, an American in his late 20s, used to be a very passionate young man. He claimed he was a communist — a Stalinist, even. He would engage in endless political debates during smoking breaks and drinking sessions. He dreamed of graduate school, an academic career and, one day, even leading a riot. But instead, he got married to a Japanese girl and already had children by the time he graduated. She did not want to…

Jim reminded me of the excellent BBC documentary "Japan - A Story of Love and Hate". The documentary follows Naoki, a former communist and now a middle-aged furita.

I don't think it is a uniquely Japanese phenomenon, but I do think that Japanese society is uniquely lacking in opportunities for people to live outside of the mainstream. It seems that if you miss out on Shinsotsu-Ikkatsu-Saiyō, you are a permanent second-class citizen, with few prospects beyond bare survival. The west is far from perfect, but it offers far more alternatives and second chances.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjqd3sIcfrY

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