Visual Studio 2015 announced • Hacker News Board

Re: Visual Studio 2015 announced

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Post by dragonwriter » Thu, Apr 02, 2015, 3:31 PM UTC

gagege wrote: post #6

interdrift wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Express isn't depricated >Visual Studio Express 2015 editions. (Non-enterprise customers are encouraged to check out Visual Studio Community 2015, which is also free and provides a more comprehensive solution)

That's pretty much the definition of "deprecated".

No, its not. If the qualifier "non-enterprise" wasn't in their, it would be close to "deprecated"; as it is, its just a narrower target.

Re: Visual Studio 2015 announced

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Post by Havoc » Thu, Apr 02, 2015, 3:32 PM UTC

This is really cool. VS is ideal for someone like me that occasionally needs an IDE that works out of the box for button + code behind it type projects. (Tried Python GUI frameworks...what a mess)

Re: Visual Studio 2015 announced

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 02, 2015, 3:32 PM UTC

apalmer wrote: post #10

Been hearing a lot about Visual Studio 2015 recently, as far as I am aware it is not even in Beta yet... I am a .Net developer in a Corporate IT job, so I am exactly in the demographic Microsoft aims for as users (not buyers though). Visual Studio is hands down the best IDE, period. The pricing is absolutely, absolutely insane.

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Re: Visual Studio 2015 announced

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Post by icegreentea » Thu, Apr 02, 2015, 3:33 PM UTC

apalmer wrote: post #10

Been hearing a lot about Visual Studio 2015 recently, as far as I am aware it is not even in Beta yet... I am a .Net developer in a Corporate IT job, so I am exactly in the demographic Microsoft aims for as users (not buyers though). Visual Studio is hands down the best IDE, period. The pricing is absolutely, absolutely insane.

It's worth noting that the price listed for Pro is with MSDN subscription included. They have tucked away at the bottom that they will also offer Pro without MSDN license. If this follows previous pricing patterns, then it'll probably cost ~600 dollars. Somewhat more reasonable.

Re: Visual Studio 2015 announced

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Post by jasode » Thu, Apr 02, 2015, 3:35 PM UTC

This is a confusing announcement from Microsoft.

They are actually announcing a new product lineup (1) and not a new release for actual download. The article predicts that the actual release (RTM) will be in the summer. The current (beta) release is still CTP 6 which was already announced a few weeks ago.

I suppose this is a press release intended more for the corporate IT manager planning his purchasing budget (what SKU do I buy/upgrade) rather than developers to actually install and play with today.

(1) e.g. Premium and Ultimate editions will be merged into one Enterprise edition

Re: Visual Studio 2015 announced

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Post by S4M » Thu, Apr 02, 2015, 3:39 PM UTC

There is an Android version. I am curious, are there people out there who use Android device to code? I tried a bit QPython but it was frustrating not to be able to use the app I created from outside of QPython.

Re: Visual Studio 2015 announced

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Post by untog » Thu, Apr 02, 2015, 3:40 PM UTC

Is Visual Studio made with .NET? If it was I could dream of a Mac/Linux version one day...

Re: Visual Studio 2015 announced

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Post by jmkni » Thu, Apr 02, 2015, 3:42 PM UTC

Gah, announced is really misleading.

Re: Visual Studio 2015 announced

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Post by hermanocabral » Thu, Apr 02, 2015, 3:43 PM UTC

apalmer wrote: post #10

Been hearing a lot about Visual Studio 2015 recently, as far as I am aware it is not even in Beta yet... I am a .Net developer in a Corporate IT job, so I am exactly in the demographic Microsoft aims for as users (not buyers though). Visual Studio is hands down the best IDE, period. The pricing is absolutely, absolutely insane.

While I agree that the price is insane if you consider the cost of the IDE ONLY, once you realize that corporations don't buy Visual Studio standalone but instead buy the whole MSDN subscription package, you'll see that the price is quite low and it's a nice deal since you're able to get every single thing Microsoft has to offer.

Re: Visual Studio 2015 announced

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Post by pat2man » Thu, Apr 02, 2015, 3:45 PM UTC

untog wrote: post #17

Is Visual Studio made with .NET? If it was I could dream of a Mac/Linux version one day...

I'm sure it uses a lot of Windows specific libraries. That being said the Mono project has been working to create open source equivalents for a while.