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Re: $149 Chromebooks

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The most expensive Chromebook doesn't cater to Thinkpad users. The Lenovo Chromebook might.

I seriously doubt it. I have never seen a non-Thinkpad branded Lenovo laptop that would satisfy somebody who liked the R60's keyboard.

Looking at http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/11e-series/11e..., the keyboard looks "too chiclet" to be what Thinkpad users expect, despite the name. Right? (I'm not a fan of those laptops, so can't tell)

Re: $149 Chromebooks

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>I liken it to techies running out and buying a Tesla. You can't put your own turbo on it, you can't do much to improve the performance or customize it, you can't repair the engine in your garage, you can't drop in a new transmission when yours goes out, and it's not a manual transmission, so you're giving up a lot of control in driving it. That is an interesting analogy, but it's pretty misleading. Tesla happens to…

Well obviously turbo is just an example. Analogies can only ever approximate their subject, they can never be perfect. The idea is, that's the antithesis of what the guy down at your local garage might look for. It's not terribly moddable, you have less control over the inner workings, it's really expensive, the manufacturer holds tight control over the software, and yours is exactly the same as the one next to it. T…

People mod Teslas. You can't mod the transmission because it basically doesn't have one. But you can write awesome html5 apps for the 17" touchscreen.

Re: $149 Chromebooks

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Where is the $149 Windows-Based laptop with SSD, 2-4GB RAM, and moderate graphics, that can run your usual Office to Minecraft software? The Chromebook-killer from Microsoft should be here, but all I hear about are the Surfaces. Honestly, the only reason my kids don't have Chromebooks is because they don't easily run Minecraft or downloadable games. Sure they can do their school work on them, but they also like to pl…

It's sad because Minecraft was originally Java...

Re: $149 Chromebooks

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Pretty sure Chromebooks dominated amazon.co.uk for a while too...

> Pretty sure Chromebooks dominated amazon.co.uk for a while too... Pretty sure it didn't.

I wasn't 100% so I had a quick look. Here's a blog post from 2012 with the Samsung/ARM Chromebook shown as the top seller in laptops in the UK (you have to scroll right down to the bottom).

http://googlesystem.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/chromebooks-best-...

You're right though, it wasn't 2014, it was 2012.

Re: $149 Chromebooks

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Actually, I upvoted this, but on reflection I think this is wrong. Here's why: - Most Chromebooks are freely bootloader unlocked, allowing any operating system to be loaded on them. - ChromeOS follows the same open source model as Chrome—Most core features open, with things like Flash/Wildvine/API keys held secret. - There are no native apps on ChromeOS—the correct question is not "Can Mozilla write a browser for Chr…

> - Most Chromebooks are freely bootloader unlocked, allowing any operating system to be loaded on them. So do most Windows Notebooks. I just bought one recently at 250$, installed Linux. so there is nothing special about chromebooks in this regard.

They weren't saying such.

"So I fail to see how Chromebooks are 'more extremely locked down' than iDevices."

Re: $149 Chromebooks

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I think part of it was that there were so many horribly specced Windows devices sold. As in, the specs were not good enough to handle the OS. 2GB, a single core first gen Atom, and a 5200RPM drive is painful to use even Windows 7 on. Had one of those machines for work. Even after a fresh install, the lag was positively infuriating.

Ah, that makes sense. My Eee came with an SSD, and I installed Linux the day it arrived. I can see how it would have been a different experience with Windows and old-school hard drives.

It honestly wasn't awful. I used an MSI Wind U100 for several years - I actually used it for school until June last year. I gradually transitioned OS's - WinXP, OSX, then Ubuntu 11.04. Ran all of them like a champ, video playback was the only sticking point.

Re: $149 Chromebooks

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Chromebook sales are constantly rising. With the eventual capability that they'll be able to run Android programs, as well as PNaCl and Emscripten borrowing from each other and getting better offering opportunity for tons of apps to be ported to the web, and then of course HTML5 and Js becoming the technology of choice for all sorts of apps, Chromebooks are the eventual future. Maybe they're not the present, but they…

> "Maybe they're not the present, but they ARE the future." That reminds me of Sun in the early 90's. I'm not saying you're wrong. But I don't think it's inevitable you're right either. Especially since browser UI toolkits are still stuck in the stone age compared to native counterparts. Until that gets fixed, I actually think it's probably just wishful thinking.

Are there any decent modern ones at all? I'm looking for a few, but don't want to re-invent the wheel.

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A google cloud print enabled printer solves the printing issue.

The Google printer "solution" has always struck me as an exceedingly stupid solution. I have a local microcomputer, and a local printer yet the solution is to send my data to the other side of the world and then push it back on to the printer I am stood looking at? Why? It's stupid. Why not talk directly to the printer without the requirement of an Internet connection? The same goes for sending files via Dropbox to s…

When I send an email to my boss, it goes up to Google servers.

That's how cloud stuff works. Picking on cloud printers in particular is raging at the wind.

Re: $149 Chromebooks

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The Google printer "solution" has always struck me as an exceedingly stupid solution. I have a local microcomputer, and a local printer yet the solution is to send my data to the other side of the world and then push it back on to the printer I am stood looking at? Why? It's stupid. Why not talk directly to the printer without the requirement of an Internet connection? The same goes for sending files via Dropbox to s…

When I send an email to my boss, it goes up to Google servers. That's how cloud stuff works. Picking on cloud printers in particular is raging at the wind.

Good point, but email is understood to indicate remote people, even if in truth your boss is sat next to you.

Printers don't really fit this model - when you tell something to print (for the printer on your desk), getting it sent to the other side of the world just to come back is daft, energy inefficient and wasteful.

Re: $149 Chromebooks

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Q3 2013 is a long time ago. According to NPD, Chromebooks had 14% market share in 2014, counting retail and commercial (read: education) channels. Growth was up 85% year over year, too, which is amazing in the context of a stagnant/declining laptop market. http://betanews.com/2015/02/24/2015-is-year-of-the-chromeboo...

NPD is a less reliable source covering a much smaller market (not that any of them are reliable).

Chromebook sales are about 1% of all PC sales, says ABI Research http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/22/chromebook...

Different source, different paper, different journalist, same conclusion.

The idea that Chromebooks sell in volume is delusional, at this point, and downvotes won't make it any less delusional.

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