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Google Says 5% of Visitors to Its Sites Have Ad Injectors Installed

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Re: Google Says 5% of Visitors to Its Sites Have Ad Injectors Installed

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Well maybe they should stop allowing download sites that offer ad infected downloads to buy the top spots on the google search results page? https://i.imgur.com/Ote9c2k.png Adwords is probably one of the main infection vectors for malware these days. Previous rant: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8879229

Your rant is outdated. This is what "download firefox" looks like now: http://i.imgur.com/dG7wONC.png

I just tried it. 2nd and 3rd links install ad injectors

http://imgur.com/AChAmGp

Re: Google Says 5% of Visitors to Its Sites Have Ad Injectors Installed

#52
> “Unwanted ad injectors aren’t part of a healthy ads ecosystem,” Google Safe Browsing engineer Nav Jagpal writes in today’s announcement. “They’re part of an environment where bad practices hurt users, advertisers and publishers alike.”

Healthy ads ecosystem? WFT? The internet is inundated with garbage because of the perverse incentives wrought by ad-based revenue models, not to mention the other costs of advertising: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8585237.

Google is to me and to a growing number of people an "unwanted ad injector" built into a vast number of web-sites which would, if Google and others didn't make it so easy to get ad revenue, be forced to do what you're supposed to do in a healthy free-market ecosystem: make products good enough that people are willing to pay for them.

Re: Google Says 5% of Visitors to Its Sites Have Ad Injectors Installed

#53
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There are whole companies dedicated to this concept of piggy-backing junk. ... including a YC company called InstallMonetizer: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5092711

Fortunately they have 'watsi' too. Downvoters are invited to explain what's wrong with this comment, I see installmonetizer as one of the low points in the history of YC and watsi as the high point, possibly the high point in VC investing in the last decade or more.

Spending your weekends volunteering at a soup kitchen doesn't give you the right to throw litter onto the highway.

Just because YC has watsi doesn't mean they shouldn't have to explain why they're affiliated with InstallMonetizer, and justify their decision.

Re: Google Says 5% of Visitors to Its Sites Have Ad Injectors Installed

#55

Well maybe they should stop allowing download sites that offer ad infected downloads to buy the top spots on the google search results page? https://i.imgur.com/Ote9c2k.png Adwords is probably one of the main infection vectors for malware these days. Previous rant: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8879229

They've apparently updated their adwords policy regarding this. Now it's a matter of enforcement:

http://ipensatori.com/2015/03/20/google-update-to-software-d...

Re: Google Says 5% of Visitors to Its Sites Have Ad Injectors Installed

#56

Well maybe they should stop allowing download sites that offer ad infected downloads to buy the top spots on the google search results page? https://i.imgur.com/Ote9c2k.png Adwords is probably one of the main infection vectors for malware these days. Previous rant: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8879229

To be fair, while the sites in your screenshot are listed in Google's index, they aren't the top results for "download firefox". There are 4 official Mozilla links before the crap links not to mention a special Google feature box (or whatever they call it) at the top with a direct link to Mozilla.

Re: Google Says 5% of Visitors to Its Sites Have Ad Injectors Installed

#57
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This, right here, is why I have no qualms installing Adblock Edge and insisting that my parents (and anyone else who isn't very tech-savvy) do the same. It's not about not wanting to support independent bloggers. It's about making sure that unsuspecting users don't accidentally download malware when they're doing something mundane like downloading their web browser . In the age of the web, Adblock is the new anti-vir…

It's the 30 second youtube ads that finally got me to install adblock again after 3 years without. Also the javascript late load "oops click" tricks they're pulling to scam advertisers now (google search, youtube, bing search - all use late load javascript to get misclicks).

> It's the 30 second youtube ads that finally got me to install adblock again after 3 years without.

Same here. I couldn't be bothered to install AdBlock for many years, but the mandatory before-video ads were the straw that broke the camel's back for me.

> Also the javascript late load "oops click" tricks they're pulling to scam advertisers now (google search, youtube, bing search - all use late load javascript to get misclicks).

I've lost track of who is trying to scam who. The users are collateral damage anyway.

Re: Google Says 5% of Visitors to Its Sites Have Ad Injectors Installed

#58
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You can't trust anybody except for open source repositories. The easiest way to get such trash on your computer is installing software from a commercial vendor. Oracle is one major source of headache, if you aren't careful you'll find your 'java' install also gives you a severe case of malware/crapware. There are whole companies dedicated to this concept of piggy-backing junk.

The Linux model: you install software from repositories curated by people you trust - distribution maintainers. No viruses, no bundled adware, just simple no-bullshit software repositories. I have a hard time understanding why techies continue to put up with Windows and OSX.

Re: Google Says 5% of Visitors to Its Sites Have Ad Injectors Installed

#60
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This, right here, is why I have no qualms installing Adblock Edge and insisting that my parents (and anyone else who isn't very tech-savvy) do the same. It's not about not wanting to support independent bloggers. It's about making sure that unsuspecting users don't accidentally download malware when they're doing something mundane like downloading their web browser . In the age of the web, Adblock is the new anti-vir…

It's the 30 second youtube ads that finally got me to install adblock again after 3 years without. Also the javascript late load "oops click" tricks they're pulling to scam advertisers now (google search, youtube, bing search - all use late load javascript to get misclicks).

(google search, youtube, bing search - all use late load javascript to get misclicks).

Of course, go back a year or so and everyone was screaming at ad providers for using blocking JavaScript.

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