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Google Says 5% of Visitors to Its Sites Have Ad Injectors Installed

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Re: Google Says 5% of Visitors to Its Sites Have Ad Injectors Installed

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Do these injectors work with https (ssl) sites? Where in the web page fetch/render process does this occur?

That HTTPS supposedly keeps out ads like this was one of Google's selling points for suggesting HTTPS to publishers. I was expecting this article to end with "and that is why all sites should be running HTTPS now".

5% is a lot. If HTTPS reduces this number to 1%, it might be worth the change.

Re: Google Says 5% of Visitors to Its Sites Have Ad Injectors Installed

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You can't trust anybody except for open source repositories. Like Sourceforge? http://blog.gluster.org/2013/08/how-far-the-once-mighty-sour...

Ah yes sourceforge. How far the mighty have fallen.

Sourceforge was doing this on like day 3, so i'm not sure they fell that far?

Re: Google Says 5% of Visitors to Its Sites Have Ad Injectors Installed

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Well maybe they should stop allowing download sites that offer ad infected downloads to buy the top spots on the google search results page? https://i.imgur.com/Ote9c2k.png Adwords is probably one of the main infection vectors for malware these days. Previous rant: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8879229

Absolutely. Though they're apparently changing their policy sometime this month to require ads advertising downloads be that apps' "primary download source".

That's good to hear. As you can see if you follow the links above I've been ranting about this for a long time.

Do you have a source for that information?

Re: Google Says 5% of Visitors to Its Sites Have Ad Injectors Installed

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes sourceforge. How far the mighty have fallen.

Sourceforge was doing this on like day 3, so i'm not sure they fell that far?

They were pretty good for years, I'm not sure where you got your 'day 3' reference from but I was an early sourceforge user and they were pretty much like github today in terms of reputation.

Then times got tough and sourceforge sold to new owners and that's when the trouble started.

Re: Google Says 5% of Visitors to Its Sites Have Ad Injectors Installed

#35

Do these injectors work with https (ssl) sites? Where in the web page fetch/render process does this occur?

Most extensions and toolbars have access to the DOM via browser javascript methods (Safari, Chrome, Firefox), or C++ Browser Helper Objects (BHO's) in IE, so they can inject and redirect content if the user installs it.

Re: Google Says 5% of Visitors to Its Sites Have Ad Injectors Installed

#36

Well maybe they should stop allowing download sites that offer ad infected downloads to buy the top spots on the google search results page? https://i.imgur.com/Ote9c2k.png Adwords is probably one of the main infection vectors for malware these days. Previous rant: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8879229

Your rant is outdated. This is what "download firefox" looks like now: http://i.imgur.com/dG7wONC.png

With uMatrix in Chrome I see "firefox.safe-downloading.com/‎" as the top result, with the Mozilla Foundation banner below it.

Re: Google Says 5% of Visitors to Its Sites Have Ad Injectors Installed

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You can't trust open source repos either; you can only verify them. And is anyone really reading all of the code they run before they run it? With all of its third-party dependencies? I don't think open source repositories are safer because they're open source, but precisely because there is no commercial benefit to shoveling BS into them. In fact, with the bigger commercial open source software, you often do see cra…

You also need to verify that the binary you run is the same source code and be able to identify malware in source code that may be very well hidden. This isn't remotely practical and for even simple software. The only practical solution I can see is proper sandboxing of applications so you don't need to trust them in the first place.

That's probably where we're headed. Hypervisors running single-application kernels talking via message passing over some networking protocol to display servers and other virtualized hardware.

Re: Google Says 5% of Visitors to Its Sites Have Ad Injectors Installed

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Well maybe they should stop allowing download sites that offer ad infected downloads to buy the top spots on the google search results page? https://i.imgur.com/Ote9c2k.png Adwords is probably one of the main infection vectors for malware these days. Previous rant: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8879229

This, right here, is why I have no qualms installing Adblock Edge and insisting that my parents (and anyone else who isn't very tech-savvy) do the same. It's not about not wanting to support independent bloggers. It's about making sure that unsuspecting users don't accidentally download malware when they're doing something mundane like downloading their web browser . In the age of the web, Adblock is the new anti-vir…

It's the 30 second youtube ads that finally got me to install adblock again after 3 years without.

Also the javascript late load "oops click" tricks they're pulling to scam advertisers now (google search, youtube, bing search - all use late load javascript to get misclicks).

Re: Google Says 5% of Visitors to Its Sites Have Ad Injectors Installed

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Given the number of insanely infested windows machines I've fixed for friends and relatives, I'm surprised it's so few. On the other hand, I suppose most of those people use Bing on IE since it's never occurred to change the default, as they probably don't distinguish between Google, Yahoo and Bing anyhow.
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